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First post, by Superpuissant

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Hey there!

I am deseperately trying to install drivers for this video card: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/333759696360
(presumably a Radeon 9600 Pro 256 Mb) for windows 98 using the Catalyst 6.2 drivers without success...

Could someone help me to identify the card and hopefully find the proper drivers?

Thanks!!

Reply 1 of 16, by Jorpho

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What have you tried so far, and what makes you think you did not succeed?

Reply 2 of 16, by Superpuissant

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I've tried installing the drivers both automatically and manually (by selecting different types of Radeon 9600 Series card). Each time I end up with the default 640x480 16 colors resolution and an error message.

Reply 3 of 16, by darry

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Superpuissant wrote on 2020-11-03, 16:42:
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Hey there!

I am deseperately trying to install drivers for this video card: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/333759696360
(presumably a Radeon 9600 Pro 256 Mb) for windows 98 using the Catalyst 6.2 drivers without success...

Could someone help me to identify the card and hopefully find the proper drivers?

Thanks!!

What mainboard do you have and have you installed appropriate chipset drivers for it ?

Reply 4 of 16, by Superpuissant

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I have a ASRock P4i65G motherboard with an Intel 865G chipset, coupled with a p4 2.8 ghz and 512 Mo Ram.
I am using Windows 98 SE and I have indeed installed the chipset drivers and I assume these are the right ones as I have successfully used the computer with many other AGP graphic cards (radeon 9200, NVidia Geforce FX 5500, Geforce 6600 GT). All of them have been recognized without issue (agp x8). This one is the only one that resists...

Reply 5 of 16, by darry

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Superpuissant wrote on 2020-11-03, 17:28:

I have a ASRock P4i65G motherboard with an Intel 865G chipset, coupled with a p4 2.8 ghz and 512 Mo Ram.
I am using Windows 98 SE and I have indeed installed the chipset drivers and I assume these are the right ones as I have successfully used the computer with many other AGP graphic cards (radeon 9200, NVidia Geforce FX 5500, Geforce 6600 GT). All of them have been recognized without issue (agp x8). This one is the only one that resists...

It sounds like you are doing everything right . If other cards, both older and newer work, your 9600 may be defective in some way. Or maybe you have hit a strange incompatibility . Do you have another motherboard to test this video card ?

Reply 6 of 16, by Jorpho

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Superpuissant wrote on 2020-11-03, 16:53:

I've tried installing the drivers both automatically and manually (by selecting different types of Radeon 9600 Series card).

Okay, but wouldn't it be useful to know where you found the drivers you are trying to use?

darry wrote on 2020-11-03, 17:38:

It sounds like you are doing everything right . If other cards, both older and newer work, your 9600 may be defective in some way. Or maybe you have hit a strange incompatibility . Do you have another motherboard to test this video card ?

If it comes down to that, I would suggest testing the computer with a live Linux distribution (either on a bootable CD or a bootable USB drive).

Reply 7 of 16, by darry

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-03, 17:54:
Okay, but wouldn't it be useful to know where you found the drivers you are trying to use? […]
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Superpuissant wrote on 2020-11-03, 16:53:

I've tried installing the drivers both automatically and manually (by selecting different types of Radeon 9600 Series card).

Okay, but wouldn't it be useful to know where you found the drivers you are trying to use?

darry wrote on 2020-11-03, 17:38:

It sounds like you are doing everything right . If other cards, both older and newer work, your 9600 may be defective in some way. Or maybe you have hit a strange incompatibility . Do you have another motherboard to test this video card ?

If it comes down to that, I would suggest testing the computer with a live Linux distribution (either on a bootable CD or a bootable USB drive).

That is a very good idea .

Reply 9 of 16, by Jorpho

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I would be inclined to try the Win9x Omega drivers, but I'm not sure what exactly the appropriate version would be. I think https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019 … ivers-2637.html might work - although the page says it supports up to the Radeon 9250, the screenshots of the installation dialogs suggests it supports later cards.

Reply 10 of 16, by Superpuissant

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-03, 18:59:

I would be inclined to try the Win9x Omega drivers, but I'm not sure what exactly the appropriate version would be. I think https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019 … ivers-2637.html might work - although the page says it supports up to the Radeon 9250, the screenshots of the installation dialogs suggests it supports later cards.

Gentlemen, I am more and more puzzled...
I did boot on a live Xubuntu 18.04 and the card worked perfectly fine, it displayed a crystal clear 1280x1024 image and was listed as a radeon 9600 RV350 is what I find when displaying the list of PCI devices: https://ibb.co/6W970cr

I tried the omega drivers which seems indeed to support the 9600, but same error, device not found.
Soooo frustrating...

Reply 11 of 16, by Jorpho

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Do you have any other unusual software installed? Does the Catalyst Control Center work correctly? (I remember that certain overzealous firewalls can prevent it from functioning.)

Reply 12 of 16, by Superpuissant

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-03, 20:42:

Do you have any other unusual software installed? Does the Catalyst Control Center work correctly? (I remember that certain overzealous firewalls can prevent it from functioning.)

No, nothing fancy in here, I just put that old thing together to enjoy good old windows 98 gaming. Damn, I forgot how far we went since this time.
Catalyst Control Center does not work at all, probably because the card is not recognised properly?

Reply 13 of 16, by Jorpho

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Superpuissant wrote on 2020-11-03, 21:16:

Catalyst Control Center does not work at all, probably because the card is not recognised properly?

I also vaguely recall that it requires the .NET 2.0 runtime.

Reply 14 of 16, by Studiostriver

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I`m the in the same problem as you were. I installed NET 2.0 runtime just in case. No matter what i do Windows 98 SE see the card as PCI VGA, not as Agp VGA. I switched between chipset drivers, old vs new, nothing.
The only thing that is i havent done cause i dont thing it will make any difference is to maybe return BIOS version into older, but that makes no sense since this Gigabyte 9600 Pro that i using is from 2004 model.
And this is 3rd 9600 that i try to make work with my Pentium 3 (previous versions saw cards as AGP, one had bad caps that needs to be replaces, other (XT version) died after 10 days of usage.)
Man, its getting totally ridicilous finding working 9600. I may just give up and search for different card. All previous cards i tested never saw card as PCI VGA before. 🙁

I guess i`m again out of luck.

Reply 15 of 16, by ciornyi

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What exactly happens when you install drivers ? Does it gives you error that none compatible card was found or it silently finish instalation and nothing happens after reboot ?

I'd checked dx version 9 , windows installer 2.0 and net framework 2.0 present before installing drivers.

DOS: 166mmx/16mb/Y719/S3virge
DOS/95: PII333/128mb/AWE64/TNT2M64
Win98: P3 900/256mb/SB live/3dfx V3
Win Me: Athlon 1333/256mb/Audigy2/Geforce 2 GTS
Win XP: E8600/4096mb/SB X-fi/HD6850

Reply 16 of 16, by Studiostriver

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ciornyi wrote on 2024-11-21, 07:05:

What exactly happens when you install drivers ? Does it gives you error that none compatible card was found or it silently finish instalation and nothing happens after reboot ?

I'd checked dx version 9 , windows installer 2.0 and net framework 2.0 present before installing drivers.

It says it cant see any compatible device and it stops with installing drivers. After 1.5h trail and error i`ve managed to make it work! I`ve found original CD that was going with this particular Gigabyte 9600 Pro model .
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R96P128DH#ov
It did not wanted to install drivers no matter what (always install generic pci vga driver). I was bit googling and saw some people tried in safe mode, so i did that and i was pointing exact folder where are windows 98 drivers and ini file. The file is accepted, after that in next boot it saying installed 9600 Pro drivers.

After that i went into normal boot to install catalyst since it was always stoping installation, and know it all work. It was sooooo painful. 🙁 Almost as cryptic as installing Audigy 2 ZS drivers and apps.