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First post, by Rekrul

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I have a Samsung brand, 256GB USB flash drive. It was working fine. Now however, I'm getting EXTREMELY slow read speeds from it. Like sometimes in the 150KB/s range. Some files will copy fast, but others take ages. Sometimes if I remove the drive and re-insert it, a file that was previously slow will suddenly be fast, but then others will be slow.

There also doesn't seem to be any pattern to which files will be slow, although, since larger files naturally take longer to copy, there's higher probability that they will slow down to a crawl before they finish copying.

I've tried it in every USB port on three different systems, and gotten the same results on all of them. I've run chkdsk, and the error checking from the properties/tools tab, and both say the drive is is fine. Obviously it's not.

I know this almost certainly means the drive is shot, and I've been copying everything off it, but it's slow going. I'm curious if this has happened to anyone else, or if anyone knows what would cause this.

I've been using that drive on a daily basis for a while now, but I was under the impression that when a flash drive fails, or hits the maximum number of writes, that you would have problems writing to it. I've never heard of a failing flash drive lowering the read speeds.

To be clear, as far as I can tell, all of the files still read OK, most of them just read VERY slowly.

Reply 1 of 9, by auron

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their 840 evo drives had a problem where read speeds on old files would drop a lot over time and they had to issue a firmware update that would periodically refresh the data. you probably won't get a firmware update for a flash drive, but see if re-writing the data improves the read speed.

Reply 2 of 9, by Rekrul

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auron wrote on 2024-12-04, 15:08:

their 840 evo drives had a problem where read speeds on old files would drop a lot over time and they had to issue a firmware update that would periodically refresh the data. you probably won't get a firmware update for a flash drive, but see if re-writing the data improves the read speed.

How can I do that without first reading the data?

The drive has a bunch of files I've saved from all over the place, and it would a royal pain in the ass to try to find them all again. I want to copy them all off to another drive, but that's been an extremely slow process. Some of the files can take literal hours to copy and I'm only about 10% done. 🙁

Reply 3 of 9, by RetroGamer4Ever

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Check the model number in Google, to see if there is any known issue with the product in question and Samsung's Magician software can do diagnostics and firmware updates on the USB flash drive for you.

Reply 4 of 9, by Rekrul

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RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2024-12-04, 18:36:

Check the model number in Google, to see if there is any known issue with the product in question and Samsung's Magician software can do diagnostics and firmware updates on the USB flash drive for you.

According to Amazon (I no longer have the package, and there's no model number on the drive), it's a "BAR Plus 256GB - 400MB/s USB 3.1 Flash Drive Titan Gray (MUF-256BE4/AM)". I didn't see anything mentioned in Google, and Samsung's Magician software seems to require Windows 10, which I don't have.

Reply 5 of 9, by swaaye

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I have a terrible external ONN brand SSD that I got cheap at Walmart that does this. If data is on it for about a week, it slows to about 8MB/s on read. Put fresh data on it and it's back at 200-300 MB/s. I've even filled it to capacity and verified the files without issue. I figure the flash chips are legit but garbage. It has a popular DRAM-less Silicon Motion controller, even UASP support. The NAND chips aren't identifiable.

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Reply 6 of 9, by Rekrul

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swaaye wrote on 2024-12-04, 19:20:

I have a terrible external ONN brand SSD that I got cheap at Walmart that does this to the extreme. If data is on it for about a week, it slows to about 8MB/s on read.

[Cue Monty Python Sketch]

8MB/s??? Oh I WISH I was getting 8MB/s! What I wouldn't give for 8MB/s! 😉

swaaye wrote on 2024-12-04, 19:20:

Put fresh data on it and it's back at 200-300 MB/s. I've even filled it to capacity and verified the files without issue. I figure the flash chips are legit but garbage. It has a popular DRAM-less Silicon Motion controller, even UASP support.

I haven't tried to write anything to the flash drive. I didn't want to risk making things worse.

Reply 7 of 9, by swaaye

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Rekrul wrote on 2024-12-04, 19:26:

8MB/s??? Oh I WISH I was getting 8MB/s! What I wouldn't give for 8MB/s! 😉
I haven't tried to write anything to the flash drive. I didn't want to risk making things worse.

Heh heh. Yeah don't write anything to it. Just get your data off it and then get rid of it.

Reply 8 of 9, by auron

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Rekrul wrote on 2024-12-04, 18:55:
RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2024-12-04, 18:36:

Check the model number in Google, to see if there is any known issue with the product in question and Samsung's Magician software can do diagnostics and firmware updates on the USB flash drive for you.

According to Amazon (I no longer have the package, and there's no model number on the drive), it's a "BAR Plus 256GB - 400MB/s USB 3.1 Flash Drive Titan Gray (MUF-256BE4/AM)". I didn't see anything mentioned in Google, and Samsung's Magician software seems to require Windows 10, which I don't have.

they say to use 7.3 in that case.

Reply 9 of 9, by Rekrul

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auron wrote on 2024-12-04, 20:08:

they say to use 7.3 in that case.

I didn't see that. To be honest, I didn't even see a download. I just kept scrolling down the page and it kept loading more and more crap telling me about how fantastic Magician was.