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Files can't be downloaded with wget

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First post, by austin987

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Hello!

First off, thanks for your work preserving vintage PC gaming resources.

I maintain winetricks (https://github.com/Winetricks/winetricks) which is used by Wine users to make it easier to get Windows applications/games running.

Winetricks supports glidewrapper, which your site provides a download for (http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe)

Downloading this file works fine if I try to access it via Firefox/Chrome, and also works via the command line client cURL:

austin@debian:/tmp$ curl -O http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe % Total % Received % Xferd Ave […]
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austin@debian:/tmp$ curl -O http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 249k 100 249k 0 0 502k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 503k
austin@debian:/tmp$ sha256sum GlideWrapper084c.exe
3c4185bd7eac9bd50e0727a7b5165ec8273230455480cf94358e1bbd35921b69 GlideWrapper084c.exe

Using wget, however, gets a 403:

austin@debian:/tmp$ wget http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe --2024-12-17 02:48:16-- http://www.vog […]
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austin@debian:/tmp$ wget http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe
--2024-12-17 02:48:16-- http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/wrappers/files/G … Wrapper084c.exe
Resolving www.vogonsdrivers.com (www.vogonsdrivers.com)... 162.249.2.233
Connecting to www.vogonsdrivers.com (www.vogonsdrivers.com)|162.249.2.233|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
2024-12-17 02:48:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden.

This was previously working (not sure exactly when it changed, sometime in the last year). Currently winetricks is falling back to the Internet Archive (archive.org) to get the binaries, but it would be preferable to not do that.

Would it be possible to allow wget?

Thanks!

Reply 1 of 6, by wierd_w

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It might be blocking the useragent string wget uses.

While a clear indicator that the host doesnt want you leeching with automated tools, it's also sometimes just a reflexive thing that hosting companies do 'automatically!' because *they* dont like the leeching (while thier customer is fine with it).

You can locally test if it's the useragent causing the 403, since wget lets you provide one.

For example:

wget --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/92.0.4515.159 Safari/537.36" $SomeURL-Here

Reply 2 of 6, by acl

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austin987 wrote on 2024-12-17, 08:49:

Hello!

First off, thanks for your work preserving vintage PC gaming resources.

And as a longtime Wine and Winetricks user, thank you very much ! Your project helped me counless times for missing DLLs and fonts

Winetricks downloads a lot of things from Microsoft and other projects. Is vogonsdrivers the only site that's blocking wget in winetricks ?

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Reply 3 of 6, by DosFreak

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Are you asking someone to know out of all the websites on the Internet which try to prevent wget?

For vogonsdrivers which is what this thread is about and what the op mentioned as not working while other sites di its best to ask SquallStrife VOGONS Driver Library

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Reply 4 of 6, by acl

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DosFreak wrote on 2024-12-24, 17:10:

Are you asking someone to know out of all the websites on the Internet which try to prevent wget?

Not sure to understand your question

Winetricks can direct-download many libraries and components ranging from fonts to DLLs and software like winrar, steam or 3Dmark.

I'm just genuinely surprised that vogonsdrivers is the only site rejecting wget user-agent among everything that Winetricks can download.

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Reply 5 of 6, by soggi

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acl wrote on 2024-12-24, 18:50:

I'm just genuinely surprised that vogonsdrivers is the only site rejecting wget user-agent among everything that Winetricks can download.

UAs which contain "wget" are blocked by a large number of hosts, it's on many "bad bot" lists for a long time. Sure, wget is a tool in first place, but its UA has been misused for decades by bad bots and others.

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soggi wrote on 2024-12-29, 06:10:
UAs which contain "wget" are blocked by a large number of hosts, it's on many "bad bot" lists for a long time. Sure, wget is a t […]
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acl wrote on 2024-12-24, 18:50:

I'm just genuinely surprised that vogonsdrivers is the only site rejecting wget user-agent among everything that Winetricks can download.

UAs which contain "wget" are blocked by a large number of hosts, it's on many "bad bot" lists for a long time. Sure, wget is a tool in first place, but its UA has been misused for decades by bad bots and others.

kind regards
soggi

Yup, which is why I said it might be the hosting company (acticia, according to nameserver host resolution?), rather than their customer (vogons).

And suggested supplying a custom UA string, as a local test.

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