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First post, by alsgeeklab

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Hi all,

Due to popular demand, I was asked if I could keep the 'Top 10' DOS Games series going. The idea was to do the top 10 games of the first decade of the PC ('81-'91). I finished them off a few weeks ago. I'm pressing the pause button on any more for now to concentrate on other videos, however I thought it would be nice to make a summary video. So for your viewing pleasure, here's an overview of the best games from that first decade. It also diarises how the PC platform grew up over the years, which was really interesting to see it begin to become the dominant force from shaky beginnings.

Check it out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZPtuXIe7Yk

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Reply 1 of 13, by appiah4

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I think some picks are really wrong. For me:

1984: Elite
1987: Dungeon Master
1988: Ultima V (SimCity is not even a 1988 game IIRC)
1989: Populous (Why did you show this off as a 1988 game?)
1991: Civilization

Reply 2 of 13, by Jed118

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alsgeeklab wrote on 2020-10-28, 18:15:

How long have you been a YouTuber? How do you grow that many (for me 🤣) subscribers?

My thoughts:

1991 - Utopia - the building of a nation (I believe it is an Amiga port)
1991 - Star Control
1990 - Stunts
1987 - Leisure Suit Larry
1988- Star Wars (the vector based game for DOS)
1989 - Street Rod (Street Rod 2 - 1990)
1985 - Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego
1985 - Oregon Trail (ported to PC in 1990)
1986 - Tetris

I didn't generally play anything older than that.

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Reply 3 of 13, by carlostex

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Starflight is the finest game for DOS in 1986.

Reply 4 of 13, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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1987: Sid Meier's Pirates!
1989: Hero's Quest: So You Want To Be A Hero?
1990: Flight of the Intruder
1991: Falcon 3.0
1991: Gunship 2000
1991: Chuck Yeager's Air Combat

Never thought this thread would be that long, but now, for something different.....
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Reply 5 of 13, by creepingnet

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My Top Picks would be....

1981 - Microsoft Adventure
1982 - Paratrooper
1983 - Spy Hunter
1983 - Microsoft Flight SImulator
1984 - Ultima V: Quest of the Avatar
1984 - DepthCharge (Henry J. Kottler)
1984 - King's Quest I
1985 - Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny
1985 - Thedexter
1986 - Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards
1987 - Maniac Mansion
1988 - Tank Wars (Kenneth B. Morse)
1988 - Duke Nukem
1989 - The Secret of Monkey Island
1989 - Wolfenstein 3D
1989 - Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0
1990 - Ultima V: The False Prophet
1990 - Test Drive III
1991 - Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
1991 - Car & Driver

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Reply 7 of 13, by Cobra42898

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Indianapolis 500 the simulation
Oregon Trail
Wolfenstein 3d

i had a whole suite of games of tv shows c.1987-88
wheel of fortune
family feud
Jeopardy
a few i probably forgot

monopoly
where in the world is carmen sandiego
Lemmings

all of these i used to play on my tandy 1000SL/8086.

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Reply 8 of 13, by firage

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I feel pretty strongly about:

1987 - Sid Meier's Pirates!
1989 - Sword of the Samurai
1990 - Red Baron
1991 - Sid Meier's Civilization

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Reply 9 of 13, by Akuma

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Al I really like your video's, but if you do another Digger review in the future, please use a proper version. It is supposed to look like this: (instead of the constant yellow)

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(level 1: max score, took me 31 tries 🤣)

Reply 10 of 13, by alsgeeklab

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Jed118 wrote on 2020-10-28, 19:23:
How long have you been a YouTuber? How do you grow that many (for me lol) subscribers? […]
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alsgeeklab wrote on 2020-10-28, 18:15:

How long have you been a YouTuber? How do you grow that many (for me 🤣) subscribers?

My thoughts:

1991 - Utopia - the building of a nation (I believe it is an Amiga port)
1991 - Star Control
1990 - Stunts
1987 - Leisure Suit Larry
1988- Star Wars (the vector based game for DOS)
1989 - Street Rod (Street Rod 2 - 1990)
1985 - Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego
1985 - Oregon Trail (ported to PC in 1990)
1986 - Tetris

I didn't generally play anything older than that.

My apologies for taking FOUR years to reply! Just saw this now!

How did I get to almost 15k subs? Just hard work I guess. As soon as I stepped off the gas after COVID (when I got busy with life again, running my own business etc etc), my subscriber rate never grew as fast as it did in the beginning.

To give you an example of how long it takes to make a video, a simple 'sit in front of a PC and shoot something like me playing a game for an hour or two', will be edited down into ~10-30 mins and will take me 2-4 days to edit. If it's a proper scripted documentary thing like Back to The BBS or the Gary Kildall /DRM video, they take many months of research, scripting, recording, video, audio and editing. It's a huge undertaking which many people don't understand because they just watch something in 30 mins and think it takes 30 mins to record!

Many times unfortunately, even if you think you've made a masterpiece, unfortunately it may get like 1000 views and that's it. The sad reality of YouTube!

Anyway... I still enjoy it!

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Reply 11 of 13, by appiah4

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A lot of these games are not DOS games for me.. I palyed almost the entirety of the list on an Amiga. It feels weird when someone speaks of these games as DOS games 😀

Reply 12 of 13, by gerry

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alsgeeklab wrote on 2024-12-31, 01:10:

To give you an example of how long it takes to make a video, a simple 'sit in front of a PC and shoot something like me playing a game for an hour or two', will be edited down into ~10-30 mins and will take me 2-4 days to edit. If it's a proper scripted documentary thing like Back to The BBS or the Gary Kildall /DRM video, they take many months of research, scripting, recording, video, audio and editing. It's a huge undertaking which many people don't understand because they just watch something in 30 mins and think it takes 30 mins to record!

Many times unfortunately, even if you think you've made a masterpiece, unfortunately it may get like 1000 views and that's it. The sad reality of YouTube!

Anyway... I still enjoy it!

there are some that really do only take 30 mins over a 30 min video.... and you can tell watching it! (and they get 112 views, 67 of them self views from checking portions and refreshing page)

anyway, its always interested me - the youtube channel "iceberg", there are a relatively small number of "big" channels for a given topic and then many times that number is small-but-viable channels and then below that a vast unknowable set of channels that never take off. sometimes i find one, with videos that have less than 100, sometimes less than 10, views after 10 years online. others clearly started out, lots of uploads in the early days - a "100 sub special", a "this channel's future" video or two, before inevitably slowing down and being abandoned. often, on the last upload there isn't even a recent "what happened? hope your ok" type comment.

all that effort, all that intention behind all those 1000's upon 1000's of channels that never got many subs, never had many views. it's a kinda fascinating. such videos can be hard to find, youtube is always pushing new and popular, it takes some real searching and sometimes a bit of page-downing to find them.

one thing about some of the viable smaller channels i like is that the creator answers comments and there are "regulars" that watch and comment, feels like a small community of sorts

appiah4 wrote on 2025-01-02, 12:02:

A lot of these games are not DOS games for me.. I palyed almost the entirety of the list on an Amiga. It feels weird when someone speaks of these games as DOS games 😀

i know what you mean, the system you first encounter the game on is the system you forever associate the game with. i guess the objective measure is the release date.

Reply 13 of 13, by Jed118

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alsgeeklab wrote on 2024-12-31, 01:10:
My apologies for taking FOUR years to reply! Just saw this now! […]
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Jed118 wrote on 2020-10-28, 19:23:
How long have you been a YouTuber? How do you grow that many (for me lol) subscribers? […]
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alsgeeklab wrote on 2020-10-28, 18:15:

How long have you been a YouTuber? How do you grow that many (for me 🤣) subscribers?

My thoughts:

1991 - Utopia - the building of a nation (I believe it is an Amiga port)
1991 - Star Control
1990 - Stunts
1987 - Leisure Suit Larry
1988- Star Wars (the vector based game for DOS)
1989 - Street Rod (Street Rod 2 - 1990)
1985 - Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego
1985 - Oregon Trail (ported to PC in 1990)
1986 - Tetris

I didn't generally play anything older than that.

My apologies for taking FOUR years to reply! Just saw this now!

How did I get to almost 15k subs? Just hard work I guess. As soon as I stepped off the gas after COVID (when I got busy with life again, running my own business etc etc), my subscriber rate never grew as fast as it did in the beginning.

To give you an example of how long it takes to make a video, a simple 'sit in front of a PC and shoot something like me playing a game for an hour or two', will be edited down into ~10-30 mins and will take me 2-4 days to edit. If it's a proper scripted documentary thing like Back to The BBS or the Gary Kildall /DRM video, they take many months of research, scripting, recording, video, audio and editing. It's a huge undertaking which many people don't understand because they just watch something in 30 mins and think it takes 30 mins to record!

Many times unfortunately, even if you think you've made a masterpiece, unfortunately it may get like 1000 views and that's it. The sad reality of YouTube!

Anyway... I still enjoy it!

Thanks 🤣, I've given up - 300 subs is good enough I guess, maybe one day I'll revisit it, but I did my Masters and several certs in that time, working on an ID cert too - I'm just gonna make money the old fashioned way - upwards mobility and purchasing and renting property 😜

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