Aw man, he covered up the serial numbers. I was going to try to track him down based on the serial numbers of a 20 year old video card he bought second hand...

Wait! Did I just type that? I meant to think it silently in my evil brain.

... anyway! Nice find! You should put that in an overpowered PCI-E Windows 98SE build. 😁

Wes1262 wrote on 2025-01-30, 14:06:

Sealed 6800u
Hit jackpot

That's a pretty sweet find! Unused too... incredible. I bet it was a STEAL! Nice work. (wrong interface tho 😉)

Bought myself another 8-Bit Micro for my collection, a Tangerine Oric-1:

eBay purchase, -"sold as seen" / "untested", the usual bullshit.

The seller somehow neglected to mention that the case had all of it's screws missing and somebody had been inside and unscrewed the voltage regulator from it's heatsink. The nut that was supposed to hold it in place was missing and the washer was dangling precariously from the internal speaker, whilst the screw and heatsink were just swinging loose. It's a good job I didn't try to just power it on first without checking!

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-01-30, 14:34:

Aw man, he covered up the serial numbers. I was going to try to track him down based on the serial numbers of a 20 year old video card he bought second hand...

Wait! Did I just type that? I meant to think it silently in my evil brain.

... anyway! Nice find! You should put that in an overpowered PCI-E Windows 98SE build. 😁

Heh. I have come across one or two instances in the past where special software suites or extra featured support stuff only available for download from the manufacturer if you provide serial number. So if you leave photos of your stuff showing serials, maybe your serial gets used, and manufacturer blocks it when it's been seen from 5 or 20 different places in the world or something. Rare thing probably for most hardware, but if it's something you particularly value like this, then no harm taking extra precautions.... Though things can get super shady in the collecting world too, someone filing a police theft report with your serials on, that either ain't gonna turn out right or be a bunch of hassle for nothing.

BitWrangler wrote on 2025-01-30, 18:58:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-01-30, 14:34:

Aw man, he covered up the serial numbers. I was going to try to track him down based on the serial numbers of a 20 year old video card he bought second hand...

Wait! Did I just type that? I meant to think it silently in my evil brain.

... anyway! Nice find! You should put that in an overpowered PCI-E Windows 98SE build. 😁

Heh. I have come across one or two instances in the past where special software suites or extra featured support stuff only available for download from the manufacturer if you provide serial number. So if you leave photos of your stuff showing serials, maybe your serial gets used, and manufacturer blocks it when it's been seen from 5 or 20 different places in the world or something. Rare thing probably for most hardware, but if it's something you particularly value like this, then no harm taking extra precautions.... Though things can get super shady in the collecting world too, someone filing a police theft report with your serials on, that either ain't gonna turn out right or be a bunch of hassle for nothing.

I doubt you can even redeem anything tied to a serial number of a 6800Ultra. I doubt the company maintains any active program for this.

I bought this plain looking PC on eBay for what seemed to be a very unusual case - it's MiniITX but with both full sized 5.25" and 3.5" drive bays ...

When I saw it I though it would be ideal for giving a VIA EPIA both an optical drive and a floppy/Gotek (via a USB adapter).

Of course, it turns out that the 3.5" bay doesn't have enough depth to take a floppy drive. I guess it was intended for card readers only. But perhaps a Gotek could be hidden away in the space meant for a 3.5" hard drive below the optical drive, with just the bezel and screen etc on longer wires? That's getting a bit extreme though isn't it ...

The board it came with is an interesting little system itself, a Biostar board with soldered on AMD FX9830, supplied with a 256Gb NVMe drive, installed with Win11, which seems pretty snappy. Would the APU work with XP?

justin1985 wrote on 2025-01-30, 23:06:

Would the APU work with XP?

Try snappy driver installer, it found an XP driver for my E2-6110 APU, so it might work for you.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-01-30, 14:34:

Aw man, he covered up the serial numbers. I was going to try to track him down based on the serial numbers of a 20 year old video card he bought second hand...

Wait! Did I just type that? I meant to think it silently in my evil brain.

... anyway! Nice find! You should put that in an overpowered PCI-E Windows 98SE build. 😁

you joke but that actually happened. someone found me with reverse image search and the card's serial number.
on some local marketplaces you can see my name, surname, location and the stuff i bought... not a good time.
plus stickers are copied for counterfeit cards, or so I heard

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-01-30, 16:05:

Wes1262 wrote on 2025-01-30, 14:06:

Sealed 6800u
Hit jackpot

That's a pretty sweet find! Unused too... incredible. I bet it was a STEAL! Nice work. (wrong interface tho 😉)

only way it could've been better is if it were agp. will keep looking for one

From last Sunday, I almost forgot to mention another great PC (known by us Romanian VOGON-ers) I had snagged at that car boot sale - ICE Felix HC91. IIRC it's based on the Spectrum 48k.

And a P2B-S arrived today.

Disregard the "LS" printing - they likely used the same board for S and LS.

Tested with Katmai 500MHz, Creative Annihilator II GTS 32S (thabks to @Robert B for the card!) and

PcBytes wrote on 2025-01-31, 13:59:

And a P2B-S arrived today.
Disregard the "LS" printing - they likely used the same board for S and LS.
Tested with Katmai 500MHz, Creative Annihilator II GTS 32S (thabks to @Robert B for the card!) and

The 'S ' version has a yellow sticker over that location. If you have rev. 1.03 it may or will most likely support Coppermines.

PARKE wrote on 2025-01-31, 14:46:

PcBytes wrote on 2025-01-31, 13:59:

And a P2B-S arrived today.
Disregard the "LS" printing - they likely used the same board for S and LS.
Tested with Katmai 500MHz, Creative Annihilator II GTS 32S (thabks to @Robert B for the card!) and

The 'S ' version has a yellow sticker over that location. If you have rev. 1.03 it may or will most likely support Coppermines.

There is sticker residue right above the Rev 1.03 tag so it definitely is an -S (that and it obviously is missing the onboard LAN).
As for Coppermine support - that's another success, since it uses HIP6004BCB, which in theory goes as far as Tualatins working there.

They are very nice boards and fast. The only disadvantage is the limited fsb range (and the 133 setting is buggy) but I seem to remember that someone here on Vogons succeeded in replacing the chip.
sorry: edited

Isc9250 does decent fsb clocks. 150iirc.
Softfsb should sort that out.

Mine has a ICS9150

https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pd … ICS9150-08.html

Is the P2B-S/L wider than standard ATX? It has that L-shape to it.

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-01-31, 17:15:

Is the P2B-S/L wider than standard ATX? It has that L-shape to it.

Ever so slightly. From what I can tell it'll fit in a normal case, with a bit of care of that L side.

myne wrote on 2025-01-31, 16:36:

https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pd … ICS9150-08.html

According to the datasheet it seems to do 133. How well that would run, idk.

PcBytes wrote on 2025-01-31, 18:25:

myne wrote on 2025-01-31, 16:36:

https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pd … ICS9150-08.html

According to the datasheet it seems to do 133. How well that would run, idk.

Are these overclocks troublesome for the AGP, PCI, or ISA bus? What is the stability problem?