Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:44:

Yeah, I actually asked him after the sale if it seemed like you were buying them for scrap or to reuse. He said it did seem like […]
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Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:33:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-04, 01:53:

Man, that's sad to see. It definitely wasn't that damaged in the listing pictures. I was talking to that seller and he was in the process of getting it pulled out of the scrap lot so it would be packaged separately and protected in shipping... then the lot sold while I was waiting for him and his hands were tied. 🤷

Hope you can find parts for it though. Definitely check it over thoroughly, especially for scrapes on the PCB or any broken traces that could cause shorts.

Guess that was me. 🤣. He could have still packed it nicely even after it sold. The PCB looks ok its just got a bunch of knocked off caps and the coils. I did send them a message when I bought it asking them to pack things better but they never responded. The motherboard/cpu and hdd did end up working which holds hope the voodoo will do after repairs.

Yeah, I actually asked him after the sale if it seemed like you were buying them for scrap or to reuse. He said it did seem like you wanted to use them for something, so I suggested that he protect that board so that it doesn't get destroyed. Even if I didn't get it I still didn't want a Voodoo5 to get trashed. 🤷

After that exchange it's disappointing that he didn't pack anything around it... especially if you asked. That lot was easily listed at 3-4 times the scrap value since most of the weight was in a few big bulky copper coils, which aren't even worth shipping. Most likely those are what caused the damage in the first place, which is why I wanted the card out of the lot. Too bad really.

Anyway, hopefully you can either find a modern replacement for those broken coils or find a donor card that isn't also really valuable and rare. Let us know if you get it working. 😀

actually those were in the bottom of the box, it was the the hdd that was up against the face of the voodoo that did all the damage. They were vertical so every time the box moved they bounced off each other. The heatsinks seem to have held the drive far enough away so the PCB didn't get mauled just the stuff that was taller then them. None of the pads seem to have been ripped off so hopefully its just a simple parts replacement. (assuming it worked previous)

absolutely agree that if it wasn't for that card that lot wouldn't have been worth nearly as much. I think the coils are electrically fine they're just broken. I've got a few other pcb's around here that I'm going to hunt to see if I can find replacements and I'll keep an eye out for suitable replacements on ebay.

OH and let me answer the burning question.. the DS game was Hanna Montana.. 🤣

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:11:

OH and let me answer the burning question.. the DS game was Hanna Montana.. 🤣

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:20:

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:11:

OH and let me answer the burning question.. the DS game was Hanna Montana.. 🤣

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Im with you on this, such a Troll game to find.

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

This reminds me of the time I bought a large lot of ATI Rage XL cards. This is how it shipped. A couple cards had electrolyte and ceramic capacitors broken off. The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I had already negotiated a bulk discount before being offered a partial discount for the damage. I managed to repair all of the affected cards, so it ended up being a great deal in the end.

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Thats a lot of Rage right there, what did you do with them once repaired ? Sell them ?

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:45:

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

putting together an order on mouser now, just not sure on the specs for the 4.7 coils and google is being no help so far.

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 08:42:

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:45:

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

putting together an order on mouser now, just not sure on the specs for the 4.7 coils and google is being no help so far.

Might have to get some donor coils, Ive seen them used on other cards.

May even be able to replace them with more modern equivalents.

I dont know if Osckhar still does Voodoo 5 repairs but he may be able to help you out if you try contacting him.

https://picclick.fr/seller/osckhar

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 08:45:

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Might have to get some donor coils, Ive seen them used on other cards.

May even be able to replace them with more modern equivalents.

I dont know if Osckhar still does Voodoo 5 repairs but he may be able to help you out if you try contacting him.

https://picclick.fr/seller/osckhar

He still has active listings on ebay. I sent him a message. Hopefully he can help.

More updates:

- received the BX133-RAID. Seems it's one of the rare versions where it has had newer Jackcon caps installed by ABIT ~2004. They seem to be fine even tho I have zero trust in 'em. Will recap sometime later. Came with 933MHz P3.

- scrapper added another goodie to the list of gems I selected - DFI AK70 + Athlon 750MHz combo.

PcBytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 12:13:

More updates:

- received the BX133-RAID. Seems it's one of the rare versions where it has had newer Jackcon caps installed by ABIT ~2004. They seem to be fine even tho I have zero trust in 'em. Will recap sometime later. Came with 933MHz P3.

- scrapper added another goodie to the list of gems I selected - DFI AK70 + Athlon 750MHz combo.

I need to get a scrapper friend like yours.

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I found this particularly ironic. Theoretically testing vintage electronics requires much higher levels of knowledge and equipment than packing fragile goods with protective material prior to shipping. Theoretically. 🙄

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:47:

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

This reminds me of the time I bought a large lot of ATI Rage XL cards. This is how it shipped. A couple cards had electrolyte and ceramic capacitors broken off. The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I had already negotiated a bulk discount before being offered a partial discount for the damage. I managed to repair all of the affected cards, so it ended up being a great deal in the end.

Thats a lot of Rage right there, what did you do with them once repaired ? Sell them ?

I'm just hoarding them for now. This is my favorite PCI graphics card, because of it's wide-ranging driver compatibility and features. I now have enough for anything I might throw at it, plus plenty of extras. It's not the most compatible or fastest choice for every situation, but it ticks the most boxes at an affordable price.

They don't have much value and aren't worth reselling. Plus, there seems to be an endless supply of reproduction cards coming out of China at the moment. I wanted to buy the original ATI cards, which are a bit more uncommon. I found these from a recycler and made an offer to buy them in bulk. It's cheaper to do this than buying them up individually, when I want to stock up on a card I like.

I don't need this many. I've found that it's often better to make an offer on a whole lot, to get the best deal across individual units.

One of the plans I do have is to pair them with a collection of 430TX motherboards I also bought in bulk years ago. I'm trying to get a set of add-on cards that is equivalent for each board. I might sell each as a set for collectors at some point in the future. There is no AGP on these boards, so this is the card I settled on out of the competition.

dormcat wrote on 2025-02-04, 15:39:

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I found this particularly ironic. Theoretically testing vintage electronics requires much higher levels of knowledge and equipment than packing fragile goods with protective material prior to shipping. Theoretically. 🙄

Yes, it blew my mind to receive them sloshing around in the box like this. The seller seemed to have some concept, as there were two "layers" of cards with a sheet of anti-static material sandwiched between them, like a slice of cheese.

Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:

Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

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Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:

Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

Those pins look like they've seen better days.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:59:

debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:

Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Thanks. That's a consumer spec (SK106J), so not an engineering sample. No idea what the ES means on those chips, but I know a lot of people aren't aware of the misleading marking

debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 18:11:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:59:

debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Thanks. That's a consumer spec (SK106J), so not an engineering sample. No idea what the ES means on those chips, but I know a lot of people aren't aware of the misleading marking

Good to know!

Been a while since I posted what I've been buying... but I guess I've just gotten lazy in that regard.
Probably nothing too interesting for anyone here, as it's mostly Pentium 4 and AMD socket A hardware. Lot's of freebie cheapo ATX cases too, some scuffed and damaged to be considered scrap by most... but I don't mind. Oh, and lots of cheapo gutless PSU's for about $0.50 each (i.e. scrap value.)

Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

These are "PI" (rod core) inductors, so as long as they are not missing any chunks in the middle where the windings are, you can just glue them together (with thin type of glue so as not to increase the gaps between the core pieces) and they should be fine.
Though given the rarity and price of these cards... yeah I can understand about trying to be more cautious and finding proper replacements.
I recall some early Foxconn-built Pentium 4 motherboard used PI inductors like this for the chipset VRM. So these might be compatible.

RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2025-02-03, 14:30:

Just received this PC for £50 + postage: […]
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Just received this PC for £50 + postage:

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Things that stood out to me:

1. Motherboard supports PCI, AGP, PCIe.
2. Love that blue CPU cooler
3. Floppy drive with built in SD/CF card reader
4. 128 Bit Geforce 5500 should be good for Win9x

I am planning to use it as a test bench for testing any new hardware that I aquire to make sure that it works. My understanding is that this chipset will support AGP cards of 1.5v or 0.8v, and it should work with most PCIe GPUs up to GTX 580. I think it won't work with dual GPU cards like the GTX 295.

Nice!
That case certainly looks high class on the front for being a cheapie. NGL, the chrome accents are pretty cool. And I like how the various beige components all match in color too. The blue CPU cooler is pretty indeed... almost begging for a windowed case. 😉

As for the 128-bit GeForce FX5500 - that appears like one of the newer China-made builds. If it is, check its electrolytic capacitors. If any have "FZ" printed on their top, you should replace them, as those are know for going out "firecracker-style". See my post towards the end of this thread for more info:
Brand NEW nVidia Geforce FX5500 256MB

Another something I noted: your PSU is a "L&C Technology" one - basically a "bottom-of-the-barrel" Deer/Solytech unit. These are known for being built very poorly, often skipping lots of filtering components inside. So you may want to replace that PSU with something better.

RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2025-02-03, 16:33:

Pentium 4 3.0Ghz. I may put a P4 Cedar Mill 3.4Ghz in it. Since I have a few of those CPUs. The motherboard supports dual core P4s, but not Core 2 Duos.

Well, if you do go with a Pentium D CPU, absolutely 1200% replace the PSU then. I know these L&C PSUs all too well, and I can tell you they won't hold up with a Pentium D CPU. Just ask PCBytes.
On that note, you may also want to install the dual 80 mm fans on the back of the case, regardless if you upgrade the CPU or not. P4's produce considerable heat. With just the 80 mm fan from the PSU as exhaust, things ought to get quite "toasty" in 30-40 minutes of use (especially under gaming.)

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-01-26, 03:15:

Picked up a nice "Boxed" BFG 7800GS OC. I mean the box is pretty beat up but hey, still a box. 78$ on the bay, which is pretty g […]
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Picked up a nice "Boxed" BFG 7800GS OC. I mean the box is pretty beat up but hey, still a box. 78$ on the bay, which is pretty good at least for eBay prices.
Its in great condition its'self though, almost like new. replaced the thermal paste on the core and bridge chip and she sings! Idles at 33*C

Its a G71 Core, which is pretty cool. that should mean the OC room is pretty high. It does have the extra shaders, seemingly cut, though riva tuner shows them existing and off. They don't initiate, when selected.

All in all pretty cool! Very Fast.

Very nice find, indeed!
I wouldn't even think to OC that card, though. G71 cores don't do well when they run even a tiny bit hotter, being from the bumpgate era. It's nice to see the GPU run at 33C idle, but what about full load? If you can, try to keep the core under 60C at all times... or better yet, 55C. That should make it last a lot longer. Not sure it would be possible with the stock cooler, though.

Minutemanqvs wrote on 2025-01-24, 18:03:

At the local second hand shop something showed up! A Creative labs fan, full-size PCB, and nVidia written on it. Without completely knowing what it was I took it home for around 5€. Apparently it's a GeForce 4 4800 (a 4600 with AGP 8x support)!

It was dusty as hell and at this point I have no idea if it works.
According to wikipedia, it0s supposed to have a max TDP of 43W and I'm a bit suspicious about the small heatsink/fan...

Yeah, that cooler is just marginally better than the stock reference one nVidia used on the TI 4400/4600 series. May want to replace it if you have something better. I mean, look how much space there is on the PCB for a much bigger one. Might as well use it, no? 😀