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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 56360 of 56687, by Trashbytes

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BitWrangler wrote on 2025-03-15, 23:08:

I am seeing all the other GTX460s need 2x PCIe 6 pin and a double slot cooler, so I guess the card I saw must have been more on the 210/8400 side. The 210/8400 is hard to distinguish often also, seems like the GPU chip must either be pin compatible or 210s are just basically a BIOS softmod of 8400 or something.

IIRC the GT210 was a refresh of one of the 9000 series cards

Reply 56361 of 56687, by PcBytes

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8400GS. The GT218S chipset used in the G210 was basically a die-shrink of the G98 based 8400GS "Rev.2", which in turn was based off the 9300 I think.

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Reply 56362 of 56687, by Trashbytes

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-16, 00:41:

8400GS. The GT218S chipset used in the G210 was basically a die-shrink of the G98 based 8400GS "Rev.2", which in turn was based off the 9300 I think.

Yeah nVidia refreshes back then were a mess.

Reply 56363 of 56687, by SVIRU

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imi wrote on 2019-08-29, 16:11:
this absolute beauty arrived today :), I was anxious about having it shipped, but it was packed very well and survived the jorne […]
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this absolute beauty arrived today 😀, I was anxious about having it shipped, but it was packed very well and survived the jorney across countries just fine it seems 😀

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unfortunately I could find almost no information whatsoever about this monitor ... but it has a composite and SCART rgb input, apparently supports both 50&60Hz according to the controls and seems to have a green text mode, I guess it's from the mid-eighties?
edit: that particular style sanyo logo was used up until 1987 apparently... so sometime before that ^^
edit2: it seems to be very similar to the Sanyo CD3195C that has a bit more info online but is lacking RGB input and the 50/60Hz selector.

I just really like the industrial design, which is the main reason I got it.

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I wish I could find a manual how to remove the front glass holders, cause the top right one seems to be mounted upside down, and I don't want to break anything ^^
edit2: ah it's in the CD3195C manual ...fixed 😀

Hi! Bought the same Snayo but without the front glass. Can you tell me if it is a glass or plastic? What is the thickness of the glass? Thanks

Reply 56364 of 56687, by Major Jackyl

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Got some stuff today. The most interesting though, is these screens and video cards/interface cards.

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From some kind of "industrial" PC, like a casino game? Very interesting video card. It uses the SCSI output to the monitor input. Luckily the box had three screens and three cards. I tested the first one and it has video output! Pretty neat! Hope it can run DOOM, 🤣 It can barely run the BIOS, 🤣

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Reply 56365 of 56687, by PcBytes

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While going over some of the board lot I got earlier, this picked up my curiosity. From the 6BXDS that had a missing BIOS.

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Another interesting thing is Windows picking up the Adaptec chip as a 7800 series IC - isn't the 7895P chip the same as 2940UW? The 7890AB from my 6BXU and P2B-S identify as 2940U2W.

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Reply 56366 of 56687, by stef80

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Arrived from Germany few days ago ... unmolested new-old-stock FireGL X1 (FireGL 9700) with full bundle and a box:

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Installed patched Catalyst 4.12 and card identifies as Radeon 9700 Pro 😁:

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But you can't fool Everset:

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Reply 56367 of 56687, by Thermalwrong

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Ahrle wrote on 2025-03-14, 18:08:
#1. Compaq Armada 7730MT […]
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#1. Compaq Armada 7730MT

P166, 64MB, 1.4GB. Purchased the lot for this.
GFX issues in ad, hopefully caps. Worked well during testing.

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#2. Compaq Contura 430CX

Not sure about CPU (can't get into BIOS), but has 8MB RAM, and a relatively huge 700MB HDD with catchy noises.
Obliterates the Acernote's performance in the pinball demo that came on both.
Can't find anything wrong except dead CMOS battery, and previous owner's notice it won't cooperate with SD cards.

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#3. Acer AcerNote 730

486SX-25, 12MB RAM, 270MB HDD
Weird screen defects, never seen anything like it. It's like dead areas of pixels (orange ones, second image below).
Weak brightness and gets "burn in" effects from previous elements. Perhaps normal operation of early lcd/tft's?
Otherwise works and has an interesting physical "on the fly" BIOS access button!

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#4 And finally a 1991 ungooglable 486.
Loose hinges and plenty of bottom screws missing, but appears to have potential.
No AC adapter shipped. AcerNote's fits physically, but delivers only half the voltage.

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Dang, that's quite a deal! I didn't know the Compaq Contura of that era came with a TFT that's decently sized like that. Such a shame it has no sound. I've got a Contura Aero with the passive matrix screen and busted hinges - the passive matrix screen is so much worse, that TFT looks so clear by comparison.

I recommend to take apart the Compaq Armada immediately, there's a NiMH battery inside the laptop that likely has contributed to the graphics corruption issues and will if left ruin the laptop's mainboard. It should be stuck in a little unit with the LCD cable and will normally corrode the speaker connections first.

For your Acer laptop with the mono STN panel, it's commonly referred to as LCD rot I think? My LCD that had similar orange blotches at the edge resolved itself: https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/ora … -3#post-1409496 My theory is that's air in the panel and working it out so that you've just got pure liquid crystal makes the display normal again.

Your #4 laptop, check the FCC ID on the underside of the laptop and make use of Google Groups to see if there are matches in there. There are lots of forgotten / local brands that rebranded larger manufacturer's laptops but they rarely changed the FCC ID so the first 3 digits of that will usually determine the manufacturer which might help with finding more information 😀

Reply 56368 of 56687, by H3nrik V!

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-12, 21:06:

Photos of yesterday's loot.

Unknown:
- OR840 (IBM OEM) - no idea how to get it to power on as it does not have the standard Intel header, but a 7pin header inbetween IDE and floppy.

Looks pretty much like it has the pads for the normal FP_HDR just south of the IDE connector? Should be doable to just short the 2 correct ones with a pair of tweezers, if one has the courage?

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 56369 of 56687, by PcBytes

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-18, 09:46:
PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-12, 21:06:

Photos of yesterday's loot.

Unknown:
- OR840 (IBM OEM) - no idea how to get it to power on as it does not have the standard Intel header, but a 7pin header inbetween IDE and floppy.

Looks pretty much like it has the pads for the normal FP_HDR just south of the IDE connector? Should be doable to just short the 2 correct ones with a pair of tweezers, if one has the courage?

Populated the FP_HDR but no reaction from the board there. It's the IBM variant, which I think bypasses the FP_HDR.

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Reply 56370 of 56687, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-18, 10:36:
H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-18, 09:46:
PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-12, 21:06:

Photos of yesterday's loot.

Unknown:
- OR840 (IBM OEM) - no idea how to get it to power on as it does not have the standard Intel header, but a 7pin header inbetween IDE and floppy.

Looks pretty much like it has the pads for the normal FP_HDR just south of the IDE connector? Should be doable to just short the 2 correct ones with a pair of tweezers, if one has the courage?

Populated the FP_HDR but no reaction from the board there. It's the IBM variant, which I think bypasses the FP_HDR.

Have the same board (from an IntelliStation M Pro) but mine came with the front panel cable /pcb (pictured)...maybe you can figure it from that or, if not, I can dig it out and test.

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Reply 56371 of 56687, by PcBytes

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No dice unfortunately. As far as I can tell the switch is wired to pin 2 and 3, and my board won't react to anything, much less POST if I force it on with the PS_ON trick.

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Reply 56372 of 56687, by byte_76

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stef80 wrote on 2025-03-17, 20:51:
Arrived from Germany few days ago ... unmolested new-old-stock FireGL X1 (FireGL 9700) with full bundle and a box: […]
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Arrived from Germany few days ago ... unmolested new-old-stock FireGL X1 (FireGL 9700) with full bundle and a box:

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Installed patched Catalyst 4.12 and card identifies as Radeon 9700 Pro 😁:

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But you can't fool Everset:

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That’s a good result from 3DMark2001

Reply 56373 of 56687, by byte_76

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Didn’t buy it but came into possession of this WinChip C6. (Father had it packed away in a spares cupboard)

Reply 56374 of 56687, by stef80

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byte_76 wrote on 2025-03-19, 08:40:

That’s a good result from 3DMark2001

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Reply 56375 of 56687, by Alexraptor

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Scored an Fujitsu Siemens e178! Seems kind of obscure since I couldn't find anything on it. I had completely forgotten that 17-inch monitors could even be this sharp and crisp!

It was missing the base though, so I had to reconfigure my Compaq Deskpro from Tower to Desktop mode.

Reply 56376 of 56687, by PcBytes

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Welp, luck really ain't on my side. Got a Xeon for the XG-DLS... except I didn't check the voltage it runs at, and got a 5/12v SL4H9.

Unsurprisingly enough, it's not doing anything else than powering up and not doing any beeps otherwise.

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Reply 56377 of 56687, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-18, 13:34:

No dice unfortunately. As far as I can tell the switch is wired to pin 2 and 3, and my board won't react to anything, much less POST if I force it on with the PS_ON trick.

PWR_ON is wired to pins 1 & 2 (just checked by shorting my own board on without the cable / pcb - see pic)

Other things to consider with your board which may stop booting...

...VRM module looks a little worse for wear!
...may need a terminator card in 2nd slot if running one cpu
...use the smallest compatible RIMMs (PC800) you have - larger capacity support didn't appear until latest few BIOS versions
...may not start without battery (uses a CR2450, but a 'wedged' CR2032 will do at a push)

We both have the same board revision (750711-702) so the above should apply.

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Reply 56378 of 56687, by PcBytes

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I tried shorting each two pins (both left to right and vice-versa) and it didn't do anything. Used 2x SL52R via slotkets.

As for RIMMs, lowest I used were 256MB Elpida sticks, 800-45.
Also didn't start when I installed a CMOS battery. (brand new Duracell 2032, bought a bunch as I had a few more working boards, and replaced the 2450 holder with a 2032 just to be sure)

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Reply 56379 of 56687, by dominusprog

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Major Jackyl wrote on 2025-03-17, 02:13:
Got some stuff today. The most interesting though, is these screens and video cards/interface cards. […]
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Got some stuff today. The most interesting though, is these screens and video cards/interface cards.

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From some kind of "industrial" PC, like a casino game? Very interesting video card. It uses the SCSI output to the monitor input. Luckily the box had three screens and three cards. I tested the first one and it has video output! Pretty neat! Hope it can run DOOM, 🤣 It can barely run the BIOS, 🤣

Build a wooden case for it. You can make a frame out of aluminum profile.

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