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Reply 56420 of 56687, by dominusprog

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Dimitris1980 wrote on 2025-03-24, 15:38:
dominusprog wrote on 2025-03-24, 15:34:
Dimitris1980 wrote on 2025-03-24, 08:13:
Carmageddon Macintosh version Logitech Z533 speakers Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital Joystick Lost in Time PC CD version Atari […]
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Carmageddon Macintosh version
Logitech Z533 speakers
Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital Joystick
Lost in Time PC CD version
Atari SM124 monitor

Nice joystick 👍🏻.

Thank you 👍😊. I bought it only for 12 euros and it was new and sealed 😀 . I opened it, installed the drivers in Windows 95 and sometime I will test it with games like Wing Commander IV and X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. 😀

You should add a little bit of grease spray to the joints which are connected to the potentiometers.

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Reply 56421 of 56687, by PD2JK

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Some fancy DDR2 modules... but with leds. Ooooh...

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For the ASRock AM2CPU / Radeon HD 3850 AGP build

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Reply 56422 of 56687, by momaka

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So.... the last two weekends at the flea market place have been somewhat interesting and very shitty at the same time.

The very shitty part:

1) I bought a really small PC made by ECS (Elitegroup), thinking it would be something like a 2nd gen i3 or Pentium G or similar, to give to one of my nephews as a PC to mess around on and do a bit of school work. His mom specifically wants it to be really small, because of the lack of space on/around his desk. Te gypsie seller even had a power adapter for it, which is extremely rare with these type of findings. That's what got me too excited and I bought it without further looking up the model. I figured if it uses a small laptop-sized power adapter, it has to be something very efficient and thus newer. The seller also said they put Windows 10 on it, further making me think this is a (relatively) modern (usable in the modern world, that is) PC. Welp.... I should have followed my usual instinct and not impulse-buy it. It turned out to be..................... wait for it...................... a Atom (1st gen) -based build... with an Intel i945 chipset and only 1 memory slot, maxxed out at 2 GB DDR2 533. YUCK!! And to top it off, the adapter wasn't the original one either - the gypsie seller had taken one from some LG TV and spliced the wires to the barrel of the original adapter. The original one was supposed to be 19V 3.42 Amp (65W), but the seller spliced a 19V 2.35 Amp (45W) adapter. Ooops! Well, in any case, that was fine, because the Intel Atom (230) CPU is only a 4W TDP chip. Really, the biggest power "guzzler" in the system was the 320 GB 3.5" SATA HDD - a Seagate Barracudda 7200.12 (meh!) With Windows 10 on it, you can imagine how badly it ran.
But wait, there's more!
- Speaking of the HDD, that one was not original to this system. It was clearly taken out of something else, something with....... roaches!!! --------- FUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! 🙁
Luckily, there weren't any live ones and no eggs either. So after a wipe-down with sanitizing wipes, then a follow up with Lavender-scented 70% IPA (because I find this to be relatively decent at covering up roached-pooped hardware), I deemed it "clean" (enough) again to put back in the system... and that's as far as I've gone with it. I tested this PC otherwise, and indeed it seems to run, with Windows 10, as stated. It's just.... Slooooooooooooooooooow. So slow, that it makes the 2.3 GHz P4 Celeron I tested last week look like a top-dollar PC. I'll probably end up wiping the HDD and putting either XP or 7 on there... or better yet, replace it with a 2.5" HDD to bring down the power consumption... and noise, as the HDD is the loudest part about this system. 🤣 (It's actually not loud per se... but the vibrations from the HDD resonating on the desk do make it seem so.)
Also, speaking of the HDD, I'm puzzled how sometimes we take good care of HDDs and they still fail... yet this roach-pooped HDD with completely tarnished head-amp contacts and poop all over the controller pins still functions just fine with completely healthy SMART readings.
Anywho, I'm pretty regretful of this purchase and really don't know what I'll be doing with it. It's pretty useless for browsing online, despite having Windows 10. And not like anyone will want to buy it if I put it back online for sale. I spent $15 on it, but I can safely say that I wouldn't have spent even $1.50 on it if I knew it was what it was. Goddamn!

2) I lost $15... as in, they fell out of my pocket somewhere, somehow. Normally, I'm pretty good about not loosing stuff... but I guess these last two weekends were just not my good ones.

Now, shitty buys above and loosing money aside, I still did manage to find a few interesting stuff. Can't say it was worth it, but you be the judge...
* ATI Radeon 9100 64 MB purple PCB (forgot the OEM) for $2
* Thermaltake Volcano Mini Orb of some sort (golden looking) for $1 (from same person that sold me the 9100 above, as a deal)
* GTX 750 with detached heatsink and no fan... $3 (probably f***ed, but meh.)
* GeForce 4 MX 440 8x, 128-bit, 64 MB of 5 ns SDR RAM for $2 - looks OK
* 2x PC133 256 MB of SDRAM for $1 total - one is Micron, other unknown... from the same box of scrap PCBs as the MX 440 above.
* ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium with C2D E6600 CPU and full-height cooler - all for $2... I don't see any bulged caps on the board and it's an nVidia chipset, so I bet that's what's f***ed... unless it's the CPU socket pins, I forgot to check, how that I think about it.
* 80 GB 3.5" IDE Maxtor Diamond Max 9 Plus for $2 - spins up OK, haven't tested it in a system yet.
* a GT 740 video card for $1 - absolutely NEED to take pictures of this one (when I get to it) for y'all to see - it's "interesting", to say the least. 🤣
* slim SATA laptop optical drive - free
* 19" Viewsonic LED monitor - free from the dumpster... and perhaps for a reason. Didn't look too bad, apart from being extremely dirty... and if that was not enough, while fetching it out of the dumpster, I accidentally dragged a cardboard box to get to it, which had some thrown away foods and drinks... and as you might have guessed it, the box toppled over and everything spilled onto the monitor just exactly as I was trying NOT to do that. Yeah... talk about bad luck that weekend. Anyways, I got the monitor home and put it outside, waiting its turn for a wash. Glad we had extra cold days before I got to it. When I opened it, I found it was a ROACH MOTEL! FFFFFFfffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, not again! Luckily, it turned out to have been a *former* roach motel - again, no live roaches in it and no eggs. But this one, even after washing with water and soap and sanitizing wipes and lavender-scented IPA - still fucking stinks! Not near anywhere as much as when I had gotten it, but still enough to give the room an unpleasant smell after it's been running for a bit. Probably need to leave it outside under the sun when it gets hotter. A few days of intense sunlight tends to be good for de-stinking stuff. Hopefully that does it. It's a shame otherwise, as this is a perfectly fine working monitor... or seems to be so far. If there was anything wrong, my theory is that the roach poop on the video board controller probably messed up the video signals or caused other shenanigans. Now with everything washed and cleaned, I don't see anything else wrong... aside from the smell, of course.

And that's about all of the computer-related stuff I found.
As for the highlight of the non-computer stuff I got: 6x 30V 400 Watt incandescent light bulbs, made in the 70's in the USSR. No idea what these are from, but perhaps ship and/or submarine bulbs. I don't know what else uses such low voltage but high power bulbs. Anyone know? They are pretty cool, IMO. I also found a plethora of vacuum tubes - mostly Soviet ones. Already have a box full of them from before. Maybe I'll eventually find enough to build me my own ENIAC computer. 🤣

JustJulião wrote on 2025-03-24, 20:27:

Bonus piece of Art that was stuck in the Floppy drive. I wonder how old it is!

Hah, nice!
A few months back, I bought a bunch of floppy drives for $0.50 each, and one of them had two Yu-Gi-Oh cards in it. Having a college roommate a decade ago who was into collecting this stuff, there were also quite the collectible cards that could fetch a really high price. In my case, though, the two card were pretty bad fakes. 🤣 🤣

stef80 wrote on 2025-03-17, 20:51:

Arrived from Germany few days ago ... unmolested new-old-stock FireGL X1 (FireGL 9700) with full bundle and a box:

Great!
Now get rid of that shitty stock cooler it has and put something proper on there.
Do that, and the card might actually last quite a long time. The cause of Radeon 9700/9800 (and equivalent FireGL) video cards dieing is 100% undersized / inadequate cooler.

PcBytes wrote on 2025-03-23, 17:38:

-2x DEER PSUs more ancient than stinky bones (@momaka - VIVA caps 🤣)

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A blast from the late 90's / early millenium, aren't they?
On a related note... THANK YOU! I forgot I have two ancient Deer PSUs that I can borrow primary caps from (IIRC, they were 470 uF units, one set possibly being VIVA too). I need to upgrade the primary caps of a not-too-shabby Turbo-X PSU that's built quite well in all aspects, except for the primary filter caps, where the manufacturer used 220 uF units to cut down on costs. The PSU has everything a basic system would need - adequate input and output filtering (with PI coils and large enough caps), 5VSB PWM chip, a real PPFC coil, 20 Amp rectifiers on all rails (good enough for a 150-200 Watt 12V-based system) and even dual 12V-rails with OCP. So upgrading the primary caps to at least 470 uF should make it good enough.

The two ancient Deers I have, on the other hand, are pretty old, and one doesn't even have feedback / optocoupler for the 5VSB (it uses one of those super-inefficient 5VSB designs with a 7805 linear regulator). So don't think I'll ever fix these up, at least not for PC use anyways. I imagine the ones you got are similar design. They are actually pretty solid 5V-designs... but again, that 5VSB circuit on them makes me a bit nervous. 😁

Alexraptor wrote on 2025-03-19, 10:24:

Scored an Fujitsu Siemens e178! Seems kind of obscure since I couldn't find anything on it. I had completely forgotten that 17-inch monitors could even be this sharp and crisp!

It was missing the base though, so I had to reconfigure my Compaq Deskpro from Tower to Desktop mode.

Be careful when you do that - some CRTs warn that they cannot be used without a stand. Reason being: they need to be a few cm / inches above the surface they rest on so that they can cool through their ventilation holes underneath. If you block that, you risk the CRT overheating. But FWIW, this is probably only very specific to a few CRTs. Most I've seen will have one large PCB on the bottom, blocking air from coming from under the monitor anyways. But a few do have holes in the PCB in certain spots to allow for certain components to cool off. Also, Sony CRTs that use multiple board definitely need to be used with a stand (though I think Sony made it such that it's almost impossible to remove the stand on these.)

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Reply 56423 of 56687, by PcBytes

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momaka wrote on 2025-03-25, 21:25:
LOL LOL LOL A blast from the late 90's / early millenium, aren't they? On a related note... THANK YOU! I forgot I have two ancie […]
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A blast from the late 90's / early millenium, aren't they?
On a related note... THANK YOU! I forgot I have two ancient Deer PSUs that I can borrow primary caps from (IIRC, they were 470 uF units, one set possibly being VIVA too). I need to upgrade the primary caps of a not-too-shabby Turbo-X PSU that's built quite well in all aspects, except for the primary filter caps, where the manufacturer used 220 uF units to cut down on costs. The PSU has everything a basic system would need - adequate input and output filtering (with PI coils and large enough caps), 5VSB PWM chip, a real PPFC coil, 20 Amp rectifiers on all rails (good enough for a 150-200 Watt 12V-based system) and even dual 12V-rails with OCP. So upgrading the primary caps to at least 470 uF should make it good enough.

The two ancient Deers I have, on the other hand, are pretty old, and one doesn't even have feedback / optocoupler for the 5VSB (it uses one of those super-inefficient 5VSB designs with a 7805 linear regulator). So don't think I'll ever fix these up, at least not for PC use anyways. I imagine the ones you got are similar design. They are actually pretty solid 5V-designs... but again, that 5VSB circuit on them makes me a bit nervous. 😁

You know they're old when one of them, despite being ATX, actually goes as far as featuring that old 5v header for a front-mounted MHz display! I'm not joking, the matte one I got actually had that 2 pin wire there, signaling an AT design upgraded for ATX (and the PCB reads 240, despite the unit being rated for 235 🤣)

Then there's another PSU labeled CP4 (which is a Skyhawk, as far as the model on it goes) but god if I know who's the OEM. Doesn't seem like Deer though, due to it using a 39 size transformer.

I've yet to recap or power up any of them. I'll have to look into what caps I have around then I'll have a go at the "shiny" JNC one. The other is named F&C.

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Reply 56424 of 56687, by vetz

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JustJulião wrote on 2025-03-24, 20:27:

A pair of Canopus Total3D (Verite V1000L-P) cards with their "3D audio" add ons and the bundled software.
Let me know if any of these have not been uploaded yet and are of any interest.

As far as I know the Canopus driver CD has not been archived anywhere. Same goes for the Canopus 3D Glasses patches (or Whiplash/Descent II has special support?). Would be awesome if you could make that happen to for instance archive.org

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Reply 56425 of 56687, by Alexraptor

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momaka wrote on 2025-03-25, 21:25:
Alexraptor wrote on 2025-03-19, 10:24:

Scored an Fujitsu Siemens e178! Seems kind of obscure since I couldn't find anything on it. I had completely forgotten that 17-inch monitors could even be this sharp and crisp!

It was missing the base though, so I had to reconfigure my Compaq Deskpro from Tower to Desktop mode.

Be careful when you do that - some CRTs warn that they cannot be used without a stand. Reason being: they need to be a few cm / inches above the surface they rest on so that they can cool through their ventilation holes underneath. If you block that, you risk the CRT overheating. But FWIW, this is probably only very specific to a few CRTs. Most I've seen will have one large PCB on the bottom, blocking air from coming from under the monitor anyways. But a few do have holes in the PCB in certain spots to allow for certain components to cool off. Also, Sony CRTs that use multiple board definitely need to be used with a stand (though I think Sony made it such that it's almost impossible to remove the stand on these.)

Well it doesn't quite sit flush on the case, it actually has a couple of nub feet on the casing. That said, would be nice to try and get hold of a proper stand for it. PC itself eats up a bit more real-estate than I'm happy with.

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Reply 56426 of 56687, by PcBytes

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Another board from my contact should be arriving next month. So far it's an ABIT VL6, which needs caps and possibly some slight SMD work.

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Reply 56427 of 56687, by vutt

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New reasonably priced card for my late Coppermine/Tualatin Win98SE systems. So far I have mainly used Nvidia GF3/4 on 440BX MBs (ATI doesn't like AGP OC) . But lately I have scored few Apollo Pro 133 MBs with proper AGP bus scaling and 1.5V support so I wanted to test team red card. 9600 Pro (RV351 400 core, 300 mem) should not overwhelm 1.4 Tualatin too much. Plus they say that ATI 4xAA implementation is less demanding than contemporary green team cards. Needs to be verified.
Poor me back in days had 9200 budget version and I remember I was very disappointed with "Asheron's Call" performance. This should be faster..

Reply 56428 of 56687, by fosterwj03

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I ordered an i7-9700K from eBay last night. While hardly retro in and of itself (shoot, I suspect many of these are still in active service today), I plan to use this for a retro purpose. I’m going to combine the i7-9700k with my recently acquired Asus Prime H310-Plus motherboard as the basis for my vanilla Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista (32-bit), and Windows 7 (32 and 64-bit) retro rocket. The Windows 7 64-bit install will get the place of honor on the NVMe drive while all the other operating systems will continue to get individual SATA3 SSDs of various sizes. Here will be the baseline specs:

Processor: Intel i7-9700K (3.6 GHz Base, 4.9 GHz Turbo (4.6 GHz All-core), 8 Core, 8 Thread)
Motherboard: Asus Prime H310-Plus
RAM: 2x Corsair 8GB DDR4-3000
Graphics: Swap between a GTX 480 for Windows 2000 and a GTX 980 Ti for the rest
Sound 1: Creative Audigy 2ZS (OEM) for Windows 2000
Sound 2: Creative X-Fi Titanium (PCIe) for the rest
USB: Via-based PCI USB 1.1/2.0 Adapter for Windows 2000 and XP
Networking: Realtek RTL8169 PCI Network Adapter for Windows 2000
Optical: 2x LG DVD-RW Drives
HDD: 3.5” 1TB

I’m also considering adding Windows 10 (64-bit) to the mix, but I’ll need a good-size SSD for that since I could install a lot of software compatible with Windows 10. I’d also like to get an RTX 3080 for Windows 7 and newer, but used GPU prices will need to come down a lot more to justify adding a newer high-end GPU to a “just for fun” build.

I’m also shocked by the demand for i7-9700’s and i9-9900’s. I had the impression that they weren’t exactly loved by reviewers when Intel released them. Yet these processors still command a bit of a premium on the used market today. Shoot, you can get a brand-new, in-box i7-12700K for less than a used i9-9900K from eBay. Weird!

Reply 56429 of 56687, by bestemor

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Being inspired by all those shiny old Lian Li cases popping up on display here lately, I figured I might do my bit to 'save' some of them.

So, here is my 'new' pizza oven, in all its silvery glory (PC-C32):

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Made in March 2008, judging by that green sticker inside.

Sadly it does not come with any 'legs', so that's a bummer. But I got the rackmount handle bars.

Now, in hindsight, this may not be the best model for anything remotely modern, as I suspect it will behave like a furnace if something faster than a Slot1 CPU gets in there.
There are 2 fans in the middle(!) of the case, but I don't really know if that will help at all, seeing the minimal ventilation (holes) in the body itself.

Reply 56430 of 56687, by Wes1262

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Does anyone have the crossfire cable for the Ati x800s? Got the patience to reverse engineer the pinout with a tester? 😜 I am thinking I can make one out a DMZ60 -> 2xDVI dongle. They're probably very similar.

Reply 56431 of 56687, by PD2JK

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After years this case popped up, another school childhood memory. So I got it.

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Never heard of EasyFix floppy drives, and that CD-ROM player looks like them later 56x speed AOpen shredders.

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Reply 56432 of 56687, by DAVE86

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EasyFix was dealing/reselling, repairing hard drives and floppy drives for PC and Commodore computers. Sometimes the original drive make and model are under their label. I have a few Conner hdds like that.

Reply 56433 of 56687, by PD2JK

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DAVE86 wrote on 2025-03-27, 08:12:

EasyFix was dealing/reselling, repairing hard drives and floppy drives for PC and Commodore computers. Sometimes the original drive make and model are under their label. I have a few Conner hdds like that.

Interesting info! Maybe I can find out what the original model is.

update:
No original label under that EasyFix label, but I searched the PCB part numbers, it has got to be the Samsung SFD-560D.
CD-ROM: Acer CD-525E, I looked it up but I guessed it was faster, turns out this model is only 2x speed? I find it puzzling with a May 1995 date code (pre- AOpen)

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From a thrift store for a few dollars. Never had one of these but I'm a sucker for beige/white accessories. And it looks totally new. No wear marks and only a tiny bit of lint inside from the trackball. Maybe someone used it for an hour then decided to go back to a mouse 😀

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eesz34 wrote on 2025-03-27, 12:30:

From a thrift store for a few dollars. Never had one of these but I'm a sucker for beige/white accessories. And it looks totally new. No wear marks and only a tiny bit of lint inside from the trackball. Maybe someone used it for an hour then decided to go back to a mouse 😀

They are brilliant. I used one for about 15 years until it finally broke (micro switches). I now have the modern wireless version (m570) as a replacement - actually two; one stays on my desk, and the other goes in my bag to travel to work with my laptop.

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Reply 56436 of 56687, by H3nrik V!

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fosterwj03 wrote on 2025-03-26, 22:26:
I ordered an i7-9700K from eBay last night. While hardly retro in and of itself (shoot, I suspect many of these are still in ac […]
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I ordered an i7-9700K from eBay last night. While hardly retro in and of itself (shoot, I suspect many of these are still in active service today), I plan to use this for a retro purpose. I’m going to combine the i7-9700k with my recently acquired Asus Prime H310-Plus motherboard as the basis for my vanilla Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista (32-bit), and Windows 7 (32 and 64-bit) retro rocket. The Windows 7 64-bit install will get the place of honor on the NVMe drive while all the other operating systems will continue to get individual SATA3 SSDs of various sizes. Here will be the baseline specs:

Processor: Intel i7-9700K (3.6 GHz Base, 4.9 GHz Turbo (4.6 GHz All-core), 8 Core, 8 Thread)
Motherboard: Asus Prime H310-Plus
RAM: 2x Corsair 8GB DDR4-3000
Graphics: Swap between a GTX 480 for Windows 2000 and a GTX 980 Ti for the rest
Sound 1: Creative Audigy 2ZS (OEM) for Windows 2000
Sound 2: Creative X-Fi Titanium (PCIe) for the rest
USB: Via-based PCI USB 1.1/2.0 Adapter for Windows 2000 and XP
Networking: Realtek RTL8169 PCI Network Adapter for Windows 2000
Optical: 2x LG DVD-RW Drives
HDD: 3.5” 1TB

I’m also considering adding Windows 10 (64-bit) to the mix, but I’ll need a good-size SSD for that since I could install a lot of software compatible with Windows 10. I’d also like to get an RTX 3080 for Windows 7 and newer, but used GPU prices will need to come down a lot more to justify adding a newer high-end GPU to a “just for fun” build.

So, the 9700K and 980Ti, is basically my daily driver, you just described 🤣 I do use an Asrock Z390 motherboard though, as I NEED to overclock 😎 The reason for changing from a 9700 to a 9700K was actually to hunt 100.000 3DMark2001SE 😉 running all 8 cores at 5.0 GHz no issue. 5.1 gets unstable ..

fosterwj03 wrote on 2025-03-26, 22:26:

I’m also shocked by the demand for i7-9700’s and i9-9900’s. I had the impression that they weren’t exactly loved by reviewers when Intel released them. Yet these processors still command a bit of a premium on the used market today. Shoot, you can get a brand-new, in-box i7-12700K for less than a used i9-9900K from eBay. Weird!

My personal opinion on the 8th an 9th gen core i is that they were the first really interesting, as it was where you first got more than 4C8T without going LGA2011/2066 and Extreme series CPUs i.e. paying an arm and a leg ...

And they are Win11 compatible, so the oldest officially supported platform might drive the prices a bit up, IDK. I got my 9700K for the equivalent of ~100 US$ a couple of months ago, but they're typically somewhere between 20 and 50% more expensive on Danish sites

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 56437 of 56687, by H3nrik V!

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Bought a couple of AGP cards.

Recently bought a Radeon 9600 passively cooled for my P2B-DS, not thinking about AGP x8 coding 🤣

So in stead, I now found a 9250 which has the right coding, and should be BX compatible according to other posts here.

The really cool thing is, it has 8 memory chips, so it could be a 128-bit memory version (at least, that's what Phil found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDdA0d8f6uQ and it is the excact same version as far as I can tell)
Auction started at 0.99€, no reserve. Got a snipe for 4€50 - happy 😁
The reason I wanted a Radeon over a GeForce is that it according to this forum, GeForce drivers really fogs up PowerVR drivers, and I do have a Matrox m3D in the same rig ..

Same seller did, however, have a passively cooled FX5200, which also had 8 memory chips, so betting on it being a 128-bit (or crossing fingers at least)
Same starting price, no reserve. No other bidders, so got it for 0.99€ 😎

I do have an FX5200 in the build now, but a 64-bit. If I decide to move the PowerVR elsewhere, it might be pretty cool with a 128-bit FX5200 (Yes, I know there are way faster alternatives, but the key-word here being "passive")

Combined shipping, all in all a real good catch. On their way with UPS now.

All untested, so off course, some risk 🤣

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 56438 of 56687, by GigAHerZ

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-28, 09:16:
Bought a couple of AGP cards. […]
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Bought a couple of AGP cards.

Recently bought a Radeon 9600 passively cooled for my P2B-DS, not thinking about AGP x8 coding 🤣

So in stead, I now found a 9250 which has the right coding, and should be BX compatible according to other posts here.

The really cool thing is, it has 8 memory chips, so it could be a 128-bit memory version (at least, that's what Phil found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDdA0d8f6uQ and it is the excact same version as far as I can tell)
Auction started at 0.99€, no reserve. Got a snipe for 4€50 - happy 😁
The reason I wanted a Radeon over a GeForce is that it according to this forum, GeForce drivers really fogs up PowerVR drivers, and I do have a Matrox m3D in the same rig ..

Same seller did, however, have a passively cooled FX5200, which also had 8 memory chips, so betting on it being a 128-bit (or crossing fingers at least)
Same starting price, no reserve. No other bidders, so got it for 0.99€ 😎

I do have an FX5200 in the build now, but a 64-bit. If I decide to move the PowerVR elsewhere, it might be pretty cool with a 128-bit FX5200 (Yes, I know there are way faster alternatives, but the key-word here being "passive")

Combined shipping, all in all a real good catch. On their way with UPS now.

All untested, so off course, some risk 🤣

I have an identical 9250. It has 128-bit bus and 166MHz VRAM.
If yours, for whatever reason, has a bios with 200MHz VRAM setting, can you maybe dump it? My card runs easily at 200MHz, but i would very much prefer bios level OC over any program running in windows.
If yours has any problems over DVI (full-screen command prompt while running windows for example), then i can share my bios with you which may fix the issue - this card in my possession does not have this issue. (I have some other 9250s that do exhibit issues over DVI)

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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-03-28, 11:05:
I have an identical 9250. It has 128-bit bus and 166MHz VRAM. If yours, for whatever reason, has a bios with 200MHz VRAM setting […]
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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-28, 09:16:
Bought a couple of AGP cards. […]
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Bought a couple of AGP cards.

Recently bought a Radeon 9600 passively cooled for my P2B-DS, not thinking about AGP x8 coding 🤣

So in stead, I now found a 9250 which has the right coding, and should be BX compatible according to other posts here.

The really cool thing is, it has 8 memory chips, so it could be a 128-bit memory version (at least, that's what Phil found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDdA0d8f6uQ and it is the excact same version as far as I can tell)
Auction started at 0.99€, no reserve. Got a snipe for 4€50 - happy 😁
The reason I wanted a Radeon over a GeForce is that it according to this forum, GeForce drivers really fogs up PowerVR drivers, and I do have a Matrox m3D in the same rig ..

Same seller did, however, have a passively cooled FX5200, which also had 8 memory chips, so betting on it being a 128-bit (or crossing fingers at least)
Same starting price, no reserve. No other bidders, so got it for 0.99€ 😎

I do have an FX5200 in the build now, but a 64-bit. If I decide to move the PowerVR elsewhere, it might be pretty cool with a 128-bit FX5200 (Yes, I know there are way faster alternatives, but the key-word here being "passive")

Combined shipping, all in all a real good catch. On their way with UPS now.

All untested, so off course, some risk 🤣

I have an identical 9250. It has 128-bit bus and 166MHz VRAM.
If yours, for whatever reason, has a bios with 200MHz VRAM setting, can you maybe dump it? My card runs easily at 200MHz, but i would very much prefer bios level OC over any program running in windows.
If yours has any problems over DVI (full-screen command prompt while running windows for example), then i can share my bios with you which may fix the issue - this card in my possession does not have this issue. (I have some other 9250s that do exhibit issues over DVI)

Cool, I'll try to remember that 🤣

If you DM me, I can leave that unread, until I have tested it out 😉

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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