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First post, by Vendest

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Hi, the motherboard (Gigabyte ga-7vtxe+) in my rig died recently due to a careless mistake (shot-circuit) and I am looking to get a good replacement.
The motherboard would need to support an Athlon XP 1700+ and with a chipset able to cache at least 512mb, in a 2 x 256mb PC2100 (DDR-266) configuration for Win98se.
I can see a lot of 462 motherboard on eBay but it is a bit overwhelming trying to figure out which one meets the minimum requirements.
Any recommendations would be great, thanks.

Reply 1 of 9, by CharlieFoxtrot

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With your pretty modest specs pretty much anything with VIA KT266A (your Gigabyte had KT266A) or newer would probably do the job. There are indeed a huge number of boards made by different manufacturers with different chipsets so you probably get quite a few suggestions. There are lot's of boards that are good and fill your requirements more than well.

I'm currently building a sA system on EpoX 8rga+, but there are many good options. I had huge bunch of sA boards back in the day. Couple of them sucked badly, but these I was very happy with:

MSI K7t266 Pro2 (KT266A. Very stable board, but not a huge overclocker, but that was common with most KT266A boards)
EpoX 8k5a2 (KT333. Good enthusiast board like EpoX boards were in general)
EpoX 8rda3+ (nForce2. It's EpoX so can't complain)
Abit NF7-S V2.0 (nForce2. Probably the best overall sA board, at least my favourite back in the day. It was feature rich, stable and excellent overclocker)

One might argue that for your specs, some stable, good quality KT266A or KT333 board is completely enough. There are just so many of them. Read some old reviews from Anandtech and similar sites, they have good roundups of different boards.

Reply 2 of 9, by Shponglefan

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Are you using a PCI sound card and do you plan to use it with DOS games under Windows 98?

If yes, then you'll want a VIA-based chipset and avoid any nForce chipsets. nForce chipsets don't support the necessary Direct Memory Access via PCI bus required for DOS games support.

I'm using an ASUS A7V600 (VIA KT600 chipset) in my Windows 98SE build for this reason.

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Reply 3 of 9, by Vendest

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CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2023-08-28, 14:32:

One might argue that for your specs, some stable, good quality KT266A or KT333 board is completely enough. There are just so many of them. Read some old reviews from Anandtech and similar sites, they have good roundups of different boards.

Shponglefan wrote on 2023-08-28, 15:02:

Are you using a PCI sound card and do you plan to use it with DOS games under Windows 98?
If yes, then you'll want a VIA-based chipset and avoid any nForce chipsets. nForce chipsets don't support the necessary Direct Memory Access via PCI bus required for DOS games support.

Thanks a lot for the advices, I found on the local market a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E), it should be quite stable according to the review on Anandtech.
The only quirk is the small fan mounted on the KT333 chipset, it is not the original fan and holds in place with cable ties. I have reused the KT266 heatsink from the dead motherboard and hope that is enough.

Reply 4 of 9, by Repo Man11

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Vendest wrote on 2023-08-30, 15:24:
Thanks a lot for the advices, I found on the local market a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E), it should be quite stable according to […]
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CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2023-08-28, 14:32:

One might argue that for your specs, some stable, good quality KT266A or KT333 board is completely enough. There are just so many of them. Read some old reviews from Anandtech and similar sites, they have good roundups of different boards.

Shponglefan wrote on 2023-08-28, 15:02:

Are you using a PCI sound card and do you plan to use it with DOS games under Windows 98?
If yes, then you'll want a VIA-based chipset and avoid any nForce chipsets. nForce chipsets don't support the necessary Direct Memory Access via PCI bus required for DOS games support.

Thanks a lot for the advices, I found on the local market a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E), it should be quite stable according to the review on Anandtech.
The only quirk is the small fan mounted on the KT333 chipset, it is not the original fan and holds in place with cable ties. I have reused the KT266 heatsink from the dead motherboard and hope that is enough.

My experience with Via Socket A chipsets has been that the northbridge is fine with whatever heatsink when you aren't going to overclock the frontside bus. If you are going to push the FSB you'll want a larger sized northbridge heatsink with some good thermal paste. My Epox 8K3A+ had a cheap bit of aluminum barely held on place with thermal tape for the northbridge, and once I replaced it with a larger one with good thermal paste, it went from being unable to go much past 166 to having no issue with 209 MHz FSB. And that was where I stopped, because after 209 the PCI bus was so far out of specification that my hard drive read/write speeds dropped noticeably.

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Reply 5 of 9, by SETBLASTER

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used an asus a7n8x-e back in the day to play Half Life 2 when it launched
good looking board: MSI K7N2 Delta2-Platinum
abit boards for overclocking and if you like the red color pcb

Reply 6 of 9, by Grem Five

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SETBLASTER wrote on 2023-08-30, 21:43:

abit boards for overclocking and if you like the red color pcb

I had an ABIT KX7-333 back in the day and it definitely wasnt red.

Reply 7 of 9, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Grem Five wrote on 2023-08-31, 02:18:
SETBLASTER wrote on 2023-08-30, 21:43:

abit boards for overclocking and if you like the red color pcb

I had an ABIT KX7-333 back in the day and it definitely wasnt red.

Abit did have few red-ish sA boards, but most were different shades of brown. Some were also green. But I wouldn’t say their sA boards were in general red as they indeed varied quite a lot. And none of the Abit boards were as deep and striking red as many MSI mbs were from K7T266 Pro2 onwards.

Reply 8 of 9, by envagyok

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Hello
Has domebody opinion from ASUS A7A133 early s462 motherboard?
I thinking about a build 2000-3001 Athlon configuration.
What is the better?
A7V133 or A7A133?
Thank you.

Reply 9 of 9, by stanwebber

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i still have a pair of abit kw7 boards i had from back in the day--supports everything up to barton. that would be my suggestion as i don't remember any bad headaches with the kt880 chipset. price should still be good...not worth it for me to sell now so i just hold onto them.

yes, both boards are red.