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New Patch - The Hobbit (1983) on 386+ CPUs

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Reply 20 of 27, by carlostex

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DivByZero wrote on 2025-05-31, 22:31:

Maybe let me wrap the changes into a script first and make a proper thread for it here before sharing it around, that way it'll work for a range of versions and there'll be a proper home for discussion and follow-up here. I should be able to get that done tomorrow.

Agreed!

Just want to say i tested this on my Pentium MMX PC and it works perfectly. It is still good to slowdown the PC for the animations and such, but the most important thing is that gameplay is perfect now, and that is something that slowdown couldn't fix. This is one of the best things that has ever been done by this community, congratulations!

Reply 21 of 27, by DivByZero

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carlostex wrote on 2025-06-01, 11:24:

This is one of the best things that has ever been done by this community, congratulations!

Well I don't know about that! There have been some very impressive projects created by this community over the years. I'm just a newcomer who threw together a patch in a couple of spare hours, but I appreciate the kind words.

I haven't got the patch script finished off yet. I didn't have as much time yesterday as I expected, but I'm taking a look at it again now. Hopefully I'll have it ready to go today.

Reply 22 of 27, by DivByZero

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carlostex wrote on 2025-06-01, 11:24:
DivByZero wrote on 2025-05-31, 22:31:

Maybe let me wrap the changes into a script first and make a proper thread for it here before sharing it around, that way it'll work for a range of versions and there'll be a proper home for discussion and follow-up here. I should be able to get that done tomorrow.

Agreed!

Just want to say i tested this on my Pentium MMX PC and it works perfectly. It is still good to slowdown the PC for the animations and such, but the most important thing is that gameplay is perfect now, and that is something that slowdown couldn't fix. This is one of the best things that has ever been done by this community, congratulations!

I didn't get time to finish the patch script, but I've created a separate thread for it here now:
New Patch - Wing Commander 1 (1990) speed throttling for 486+ CPUs
Feel free to share that on other forums and start directing people to the patch, and we can continue the discussion in there. I'll post updates in the other thread when I have more to share.

Reply 23 of 27, by zyzzle

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DivByZero wrote on 2025-05-30, 05:31:

Apart from that, I'm pretty much done, got everything on my current hit-list (223 games) working. Any requests? Happy to take on a challenge if there's something out there causing issues.

I'd like to request Fahrenheit 451. It locks up at title screen in bare metal DOS on every modern system I've tried it on. It works perfectly fine in DOS Box, but I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried three different "cracks" of the game, and they all exhibit the same freeze on the title, so I assume it's 386+ related. Also, throttling the CPU to 286 speeds doesn't solve the issue or freeze, either.

Reply 24 of 27, by carlostex

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zyzzle wrote on 2025-06-04, 10:55:

I'd like to request Fahrenheit 451. It locks up at title screen in bare metal DOS on every modern system I've tried it on. It works perfectly fine in DOS Box, but I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried three different "cracks" of the game, and they all exhibit the same freeze on the title, so I assume it's 386+ related. Also, throttling the CPU to 286 speeds doesn't solve the issue or freeze, either.

I noticed that Telarium games have problems with certain command line interpreters. Are you using 4DOS by any chance? Try running command.com before launching the game.

Reply 25 of 27, by zyzzle

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carlostex wrote on 2025-06-04, 10:59:
zyzzle wrote on 2025-06-04, 10:55:

I'd like to request Fahrenheit 451. It locks up at title screen in bare metal DOS on every modern system I've tried it on. It works perfectly fine in DOS Box, but I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried three different "cracks" of the game, and they all exhibit the same freeze on the title, so I assume it's 386+ related. Also, throttling the CPU to 286 speeds doesn't solve the issue or freeze, either.

I noticed that Telarium games have problems with certain command line interpreters. Are you using 4DOS by any chance? Try running command.com before launching the game.

Nope. Just straight MS-DOS 6.22 and MS-DOS 7.1

Have not tried FreeDOS.

Reply 26 of 27, by carlostex

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zyzzle wrote on 2025-06-06, 09:46:

Nope. Just straight MS-DOS 6.22 and MS-DOS 7.1

Have not tried FreeDOS.

I wasn't talking about FreeDOS, i was talking about alternative COMMAND.COM versions for instance 4DOS. But if you're using vanilla COMMAND.COM out of those MS-DOS versions your problem comes from somewhere else.

In my case because i use 4DOS i get the same problem you describe, which is solved after i run an instance of vanilla COMMAND.COM.

Try to guarantee the game runs in real mode. Have you tried that?

Reply 27 of 27, by DivByZero

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zyzzle wrote on 2025-06-04, 10:55:
DivByZero wrote on 2025-05-30, 05:31:

Apart from that, I'm pretty much done, got everything on my current hit-list (223 games) working. Any requests? Happy to take on a challenge if there's something out there causing issues.

I'd like to request Fahrenheit 451. It locks up at title screen in bare metal DOS on every modern system I've tried it on. It works perfectly fine in DOS Box, but I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried three different "cracks" of the game, and they all exhibit the same freeze on the title, so I assume it's 386+ related. Also, throttling the CPU to 286 speeds doesn't solve the issue or freeze, either.

I think It might be the version you have, or something else unusual about your system. I just tried a copy of Fahrenheit 451 on my 486, and it worked well. Title appeared, music played, and I was able to enter the game and move between areas. I'm on DOS 6.22 on a 486DX2. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working for you as well, but I can't diagnose the problem if I can't reproduce it. I'll send you a PM, maybe there's something I can do to help.