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Netburst: Aiming for the Stars

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Reply 480 of 495, by pete8475

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supercordo wrote on 2025-06-07, 17:00:

If you edit old post I won't see it.

Ah ok, well here are the results with the CPU at 3570.

2000 - 19682
2001 - 16295
2003 - 5487

Reply 481 of 495, by pete8475

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Some new scores with my P4 at 3570. I tightened up the memory timings in the bios a bit and did a slight overclock of the graphics card.

2000 - 20095
2001 - 16512
2003 - 5646

I don't think much more can be squeezed out of this particular setup, but this was fun to play around with for a bit.

Reply 482 of 495, by supercordo

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pete8475 wrote on 2025-06-08, 05:56:
Some new scores with my P4 at 3570. I tightened up the memory timings in the bios a bit and did a slight overclock of the graph […]
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Some new scores with my P4 at 3570. I tightened up the memory timings in the bios a bit and did a slight overclock of the graphics card.

2000 - 20095
2001 - 16512
2003 - 5646

I don't think much more can be squeezed out of this particular setup, but this was fun to play around with for a bit.

Updated!!

I think im going to fire up my Socket 423 again.

Reply 483 of 495, by agent_x007

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Question : Are Prescott's with 1M of L2 and Prescott's with 2MB of L2 counted separately (775 only thing), or does Prescott 2M counts as Cedar Mill ?

Reply 484 of 495, by supercordo

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agent_x007 wrote on 2025-06-13, 15:52:

Question : Are Prescott's with 1M of L2 and Prescott's with 2MB of L2 counted separately (775 only thing), or does Prescott 2M counts as Cedar Mill ?

We can go by what CPUz says.

Reply 485 of 495, by agent_x007

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The attachment Prescott-2M.png is no longer available

^Honestly, I think it's not exactly fair to do both -1M and -2M versions under one banner (just because CPU-z says "Prescott" under codename).
Maybe if result separation isn't possible, consider at least adding [-1M] or [-2M] near submission's name to indicate which version was tested ?

Reply 486 of 495, by supercordo

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agent_x007 wrote on 2025-06-13, 17:17:
The attachment Prescott-2M.png is no longer available

^Honestly, I think it's not exactly fair to do both -1M and -2M versions under one banner (just because CPU-z says "Prescott" under codename).
Maybe if result separation isn't possible, consider at least adding [-1M] or [-2M] near submission's name to indicate which version was tested ?

Cedar Mill's are 65nm. Prescotts are 90nm.

Reply 489 of 495, by agent_x007

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supercordo wrote on Yesterday, 20:57:

And both 5800x and 5800X3D both use the Vermeer core. So whats your point?

My point (as mentioned previously) is that grouping processors in one table because CPU-z name is unfair.
It gives users of Prescott-2M an unfair advantage when they compete with users of Prescott-1M core.
Clearly marking which core of Prescott is used, can solve this by showing what is fastest with 1M and 2M of L2 respectively (for example using "-2M" or "-1M" near users name).

Unless you don't care about this "minor" problem ?
At which point, I just give up.
Should I give up ?

Reply 490 of 495, by supercordo

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agent_x007 wrote on Yesterday, 21:28:
My point (as mentioned previously) is that grouping processors in one table because CPU-z name is unfair. It gives users of Pres […]
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supercordo wrote on Yesterday, 20:57:

And both 5800x and 5800X3D both use the Vermeer core. So whats your point?

My point (as mentioned previously) is that grouping processors in one table because CPU-z name is unfair.
It gives users of Prescott-2M an unfair advantage when they compete with users of Prescott-1M core.
Clearly marking which core of Prescott is used, can solve this by showing what is fastest with 1M and 2M of L2 respectively (for example using "-2M" or "-1M" near users name).

Unless you don't care about this "minor" problem ?
At which point, I just give up.
Should I give up ?

Coming form the person who has the highest score with a $700+ Intel pentium Extreme Edition.

Its already a lot of work to update the scores when someone posts. Im not going to do even more work. It will stay the way it is with the scores sepperated by core name and socket.

Reply 491 of 495, by agent_x007

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Not sure how me having an Pentium Extreme should matter from results fairness point of view, but... OK ?
As for response : That's well within your right as OP for this list.

Reply 492 of 495, by Falcosoft

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Hi,
I would like to ask a favor from Pentium 4 owners. 😀
Here you can find my benchmark that can run even on Win98 when at least Directx6 is installed (but of course it also works on Win2000/XP).
x86 microarchitecture benchmark (MandelX)

Please, run the benchmark and upload the results.
Pentium 4 results are completely missing so far and I would like to see how Pentium 4 compares to previous and next generations.
Thanks in advance !

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Reply 493 of 495, by Dothan Burger

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Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 23:16:
Hi, I would like to ask a favor from Pentium 4 owners. 😀 Here you can find my benchmark that can run even on Win98 when at least […]
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Hi,
I would like to ask a favor from Pentium 4 owners. 😀
Here you can find my benchmark that can run even on Win98 when at least Directx6 is installed (but of course it also works on Win2000/XP).
x86 microarchitecture benchmark (MandelX)

Please, run the benchmark and upload the results.
Pentium 4 results are completely missing so far and I would like to see how Pentium 4 compares to previous and next generations.
Thanks in advance !

How do we upload them If our P4s aren't on the internet?

Here is a Prescott 3.4ghz 1m cache

Reply 494 of 495, by Falcosoft

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Dothan Burger wrote on Yesterday, 23:45:
Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 23:16:
Hi, I would like to ask a favor from Pentium 4 owners. 😀 Here you can find my benchmark that can run even on Win98 when at least […]
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Hi,
I would like to ask a favor from Pentium 4 owners. 😀
Here you can find my benchmark that can run even on Win98 when at least Directx6 is installed (but of course it also works on Win2000/XP).
x86 microarchitecture benchmark (MandelX)

Please, run the benchmark and upload the results.
Pentium 4 results are completely missing so far and I would like to see how Pentium 4 compares to previous and next generations.
Thanks in advance !

How do we upload them If our P4s aren't on the internet?

Here is a Prescott 3.4ghz 1m cache

It's not a problem, thank you for the result!
With your prior permission I uploaded the result. Tell me if you have problem with this:
http://falcosoft.hu/mandelx_benchmark_results.php

@Edit:
BTW, It's interesting that the SSE result is virtually the same as the SSE2.
The SSE2 time result is normal in the sense that it is about half of the FPU result (2 vs. 1 pixel per round) but the SSE time result should be about half of the SSE2 ( 4 vs. 2 pixels per round).
It seems the problem is the double amount of used 'CMOV' instructions. CMOV was introduced with the P6 (Pentium Pro) and it is generally faster than traditional branches. But it seems not on the Pentium 4.
No other microarchitectures are affected by this so far.

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Reply 495 of 495, by Mamba

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Hello,
To my surprise I obtained the attached score for 3dmark2000 and a 4coredual-vsta…
I was just testing it but from the chart it seems significant.

4Coredual-vsta
Pentium 4 540
512mb ddr1 single stick / 1024mb ddr1 Dual
GeForce 5900xt
Win2000 sp4

Sorry everything was at default clocks