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Reply 20 of 51, by jude1977

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hi i downloaded the 1640 software from dos days as I thought ide give that a try I've put the 4 disks files on four floppy disks
i put disk 2 in and type gem it loads and says to put my desktop disk in so I put in disk 3 and it goes to desktop but then a message comes up saying
The Gem desktop cannot find the documents
DESKLO.ICN or DESKHI.ICN or DESKTOP.INF in the dos search path
then nothing happens would you have any ideas as to fixing this problem

Reply 21 of 51, by Jo22

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Hi, I'll have a look at it. May take 2-3 days..

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Reply 22 of 51, by jude1977

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thanks joe that would be great many thanks

Reply 23 of 51, by jude1977

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hi joe hope you can still help me out with the problem I'm having as mentioned above
many thanks

Reply 24 of 51, by Jo22

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Hi, I'll need two more days. I'll try to install PC1640 GEM, but I need to setup an suitable emulator first.
And since I can't run PCem right now (PC broke), it takes a bit longer.

"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 25 of 51, by jude1977

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know worries will keep an i out for messages from you

Reply 26 of 51, by Jo22

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Hi again, I've copied the folders of GEM but I can't extract disk 1.
I need to set up an emulator to write back that disk somehow, using that DOS utility.
Unfortunately, I'm on a Mac and merely have DOSBox at hand, rather than PCem v17..
I'll have to experiment a little bit, maybe it works without disk 1.

"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 27 of 51, by jude1977

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hi thanks for getting back to me yes I've just tried using disk 2 as well but know luck still the same message I get as listed above

Reply 28 of 51, by Errius

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The early Amstrad PCs were peculiar systems with some proprietary elements. I'm note sure if software intended for them will work on standard PCs.

What mouse protocol did they use? I remember the mouse used a DB9 connector, was it a serial mouse, or something strange Amstrad invented?

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 29 of 51, by jude1977

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hi I cant Remember what type of mouse the Amstrad 1512 used that being the connection all I remember is that the mouse that came with the Amstrad 1512 system had 2 buttons on it it was quit a good design that being it was very comfortable to use in your hands

Reply 30 of 51, by jude1977

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hi all I thought ide try running the Amstrad 15 12 software I download through dosbox as I downloaded it and installed dosbox
on my windows 98 pc as I thought I might have some luck but unfortunately it didn't work throe dosbox either

Reply 31 of 51, by Errius

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No DOSbox emulates a standard PC. You want something that emulates an Amstrad PC1512. I think PCem has such a mode, but I have not tried it myself.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 32 of 51, by jude1977

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hi thanks that's interesting to know I will try and use PCem and see how I go and let you know

Reply 33 of 51, by jude1977

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hi just wondering how id go about using PCem program and how ide use the Amstrad 1512 system downloaded files with PCem
would i be best to use PCem through DOS mode or through windows 98 and if so how would I be best to use the Amstrad 1512 software in PCem

Reply 34 of 51, by jude1977

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I've downloaded PCem and have downloaded the rom files needed for different machine I've set up a Amstrad 1512 computer model through PCem
it starts up fine but says to insert a system disk in drive a I've tried loading the Amstrad 1512 system software downloaded disks for gem I've
tried from disk 1 to disk 4 but when I press enter on my keyboard it goes to start but just goes back to the same message witch is insert a system disk in drive a
I'm not Shure if I'm doing something wrong or if I need to do something else if any one has some ideas ide really appreciate if you could let me know
because I'm trying to load Amstrad 1512 software system disk using this method

Reply 35 of 51, by Yoghoo

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The batch scripts seems to be a bit of a mess. What I've done is to install DOS from disk 1 to C:. And then run the executable from drive A: (disk 2) to start it. It will ask for a disk 3 which should also be drive A: (doesn't look at drive B:).

To start it go to A: (disk2), change directory to GEMSYS and run GEMVDI.EXE.

Reply 36 of 51, by jude1977

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thanks for that ill give it a go

Reply 37 of 51, by Errius

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OK I got it working in PCem.

You need to use the CONFIG.BAT batch in the SUPPLEME directory on the fourth disk to install everything to the HDD

Of course, you must first partition and format the drive. You may also have to run SYS C: to make it active (I forget how this works)

You want the IMG format floppy drive images. The ones I downloaded from Cliff Lawson's website many years ago don't work.

ETA: OK this is PC1640 not PC1512. I still haven't tried setting that one up.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 38 of 51, by jude1977

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hi every won I've managed to get the Amstrad 1512 system disks that I downloaded using PCem I've made a windows 3.1 and windows 95 in PCem
the program works really well.
I still wonder why the Amstrad system disks that I downloaded don't work on my actual windows 98 and windows 3.1 machine it seems strange
that it works on emulated machines and not on my actual hardware pcs
anyway I'm just glad I can use the program even if its on a emulator
just want to thank every one for their help on this problem that I had

Reply 39 of 51, by Errius

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Congrats.

Software probably requires specific hardware. I know 1512 used unusual CGA video adapter which supported non-standard video modes. Software written for that isn't going to run on modern VGA cards.

Is this too much voodoo?