PARKE wrote on 2025-06-18, 09:28:

I can't find relevant/thrustworthy info on these L2's.

All the Sandy Bridge-EP are <n> * 256KB where <n> is the number of cores just like all the Sandy Bridge-E. Would you like me to post several SIV screen shots that prove this?

SLB5G E0 01067Ah 2.27GHz/1066MHz Core 2 Mobile Penryn 2 x 6MB m-FCPGA 45 1066 2266.00 Intel Spec Update 32012108.pdf 14,15,16
SLB5J E0 01067Ah 2.53GHz/1066MHz Core 2 Mobile Penryn 2 x 6MB m-FCPGA 45 1066 2533.00 Intel Spec Update 32012108.pdf 14,15,16

In the above 2 Penryn should be Penryn-QC, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 22_(45_nm)

I think 1 x 256KB/1x256KB are silly and should just be 256KB, do you or should I teak the parsing?

I have adjusted the L2/L3 parsing and think all the issues are in your data.

I know you don't have Pentium, what do you wish to do about SL23X? https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL23X.html says Pentium

I believe you on your word; all the stuff you mentioned is updated/corrected.

I found a table with Pentiums that I once made. How is your format of the CPUID ?

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-18, 10:46:

How is your format of the CPUID ?

I am unclear as to what you are asking, the i486 + Pentium + PentiumPro CPUID is the same as all other CPUIDs.

Please may I have the corrected file as it's easier for my testing when there are fewer issues.

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-17, 00:40:

Mobile Pentium 4 533MHz fsb should have Prescott

I made a typo, Mobile Pentium 4 533MHz fsb should have Northwood

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-18, 11:01:

I am unclear as to what you are asking, the i486 + Pentium + PentiumPro CPUID is the same as all other CPUIDs. Please may I hav […]
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PARKE wrote on 2025-06-18, 10:46:

How is your format of the CPUID ?

I am unclear as to what you are asking, the i486 + Pentium + PentiumPro CPUID is the same as all other CPUIDs.
Please may I have the corrected file as it's easier for my testing when there are fewer issues.

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-17, 00:40:

Mobile Pentium 4 533MHz fsb should have Prescott

I made a typo, Mobile Pentium 4 533MHz fsb should have Northwood

The Pentium CPUID info is divided over three single digit columns: type, family and model. Should they be joined plus with a zero in front and an 'h' behind it ?

Do you have a L2 ' key' for the Sandy Bridge-EN ?

Five more, maybe the last five for existing entries!

Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 065n should have Tonga, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II#Tonga
Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 066n should have Dixon, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II#Dixon
Core 2 Mobile Extreme should have Penryn
Core 2 Mobile should have Penryn
Pentium Dual-Core E2000 should have Allendale, https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLA3H.html

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-18, 11:40:

The Pentium CPUID info is divided over three single digit columns: type, family and model. Should they be joined plus with a zero in front and an 'h' behind it ?

Do you have a L2 ' key' for the Sandy Bridge-EN ?

for CPUID TFMS then T is type, F is family, M is model and S is stepping number. If you wish to add h then do so, attached are a few.

Sandy Bridge-EN is the same as Sandy Bridge-EP, the same is also the case for Ivy Bridge-E/EN/EP/EX + Haswell-E/EN/EP/EX + Broadwell-E/EN/EP/EX

Intel's naming convention is pretty crazy. If the car industry had followed the same system we would by now have Chevrolet Corvettes with 20+ different fish names.

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-18, 12:29:

Intel's naming convention is pretty crazy. If the car industry had followed the same system we would by now have Chevrolet Corvettes with 20+ different fish names.

Thank you, the car industry is much the same, looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cortina#:~ … 20door%20models. there is

Engine
1.2 L "Kent" I4
1.3 L "Kent" I4
1.3 L Crossflow I4
1.5 L Kent I4
1.6 L "Crossflow" I4
1.6 L Twin-Cam I4
2.5 L Essex V6
3.0 L Essex V6

Then you get onto the GXL, GT, Ghia, ... suffixes

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-18, 11:49:

Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 065n should have Tonga, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II#Tonga Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 066 […]
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Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 065n should have Tonga, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II#Tonga
Mobile Pentium 2 + CPUID 066n should have Dixon, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II#Dixon
Core 2 Mobile Extreme should have Penryn
Core 2 Mobile should have Penryn
Pentium Dual-Core E2000 should have Allendale, https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLA3H.html

It's getting close again:

Why is there a space in SL9VA(1 )?
SLBN3 should be 2009, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 22_(45_nm)
SLBQK as far as I can tell this does not exist.
SR070 should be Q0, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... processor) + https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SR/SR070.html
SR0G0 is CPUID 0206A7, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... processor) says [D2] which is CPUID 0206A7.
SR3L2 has a typo, 13,75MB should be 13.75MB

1[Check CPU S-Spec] <- SIV32L - System Information Viewer V5.82 Beta-04 RED::ray
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3SIV32L - Checkout of S-Spec on \\RED - Windows 10 x64 Enterprise  V10.00  Build 19045  22H2
4
5CPUID  Processor                  S-Spec     Expected          Actual            CPUID   Reason        Description
6
70650   Deschutes-266 [dA0]        SL2QE                                                                Pentium II 512K @ 512M - Unknown
806A4   Cascades-900 [B0]          QAK9                                                                 Pentium III Xeon 2M @ 64G - Unknown
90680   Coppermine-500 [cA0]       SL3US                                                                Pentium IIIE 256K - Unknown
100683   Coppermine-700 [B0]        SL4EG                                                                Intel Celeron 128K - Unknown
11068A   Coppermine-766 [D0]        SL5EA                                                                Intel Celeron 128K - Unknown
1206B1   Tualatin-1200 [A1]         QHF3                                                                 Intel Celeron 256K - Unknown
1306B4   Tualatin-1133 [tB1]        SL6C4                                                                Pentium III 256K - Unknown
1406B4   Tualatin-1200 [tB1]        SL6C3                                                                Pentium III 256K - Unknown
1506B4   Tualatin-1333 [tB1]        SL6BZ                                                                Pentium III 256K - Unknown
1606B4   Tualatin-1400 [tB1]        SL6C2                                                                Pentium III 256K - Unknown
1706F6   Merom-1600 [B2]            QVMC                                                                 Intel Celeron 500 M 1M - Unknown
1810661  Merom-2266 [A1]            SLA2C                                                                Intel Celeron 500 P 1M - Unknown
190F25   Gallatin-3200 [M0]         SL7GC                                                                Pentium 4 512K + 2M - Unknown
200F25   Gallatin-3400 [M0]         SL7RR                                                                Pentium 4 512K + 2M - Unknown
210F27   Northwood-2500 [C1]        SL6EB                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
220F27   Northwood-2500 [C1]        SL6GT                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
230F27   Northwood-2600 [C1]        SL6GU                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
240F27   Northwood-2600 [C1]        SL6HB                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
250F27   Northwood-2666 [C1]        SL6DX                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
260F27   Northwood-2666 [C1]        SL6EH                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
270F29   Northwood-2500 [D1]        SL6PN                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
280F29   Northwood-3200 [D1]        SL792                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
290F29   Northwood-3400 [D1]        SL7KV                                                                Pentium 4 512K - Unknown
300F47   Smithfield-3200 [B0]       SL8FJ                                                                Pentium Extreme 2 x 1M - Unknown
310F65   Presler-3466 [D0]          SL9K6                                                                Pentium Extreme 2 x 2M - Unknown
320F48   Paxville-3000 [A0]         QHBB                                                                 Intel Xeon 2 x 2M - Unknown
3306E8   Yonah-1500 [C0]            SL92C                                                                Intel Core Solo 2M - Unknown
3406E8   Yonah-1733 [C0]            SL99U                                                                Intel Core Solo 2M - Unknown
3506E8   Yonah-2000 [C0]            SL92W                                                                Intel Core Solo 2M - Unknown
3606E8   Yonah-1600 [C0]            SL9BN                                                                Intel Core Duo 2M - Unknown
3706FD   Merom-2000 [M0]            QGFV                                                                 Intel Core 2 Duo M 2M - Unknown
3806FD   Merom-2000 [M0]            SLAXH                                                                Intel Core 2 Duo M 2M - Unknown
3910676  Penryn-1400 [M0]           SLGHN                                                                Intel Core 2 Duo M 3M - Unknown
401067A  Penryn-1300 [R0]           SLGS6                                                                Intel Core 2 Duo M 3M - Unknown
411067A  Penryn-1300 [R0]           SLGYV                                                                Intel Core 2 Duo M 3M - Unknown
421067A  Penryn-1600 [R0]           SLGEX                                                                Intel Core 2 Duo M 3M - Unknown
431067A  Penryn-QC-2000 [E0]        SLGEJ                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad M 2 x 3M - Unknown
4410676  Yorkfield-2500 [M0]        SLAMX                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 3M - Unknown
4510676  Yorkfield-2666 [C0]        SLAN6                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 6M - Unknown
4610676  Yorkfield-2833 [C0]        SLAN4                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 6M - Unknown
4710676  Yorkfield-3200 [C0]        SLAN2                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 6M - Unknown
4810677  Yorkfield-3000 [C1]        SLAWN                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 6M - Unknown
491067A  Yorkfield-3166 [E0]        SLBBU                                                                Intel Core 2 Quad 2 x 6M - Unknown
5006E8   Sossaman-2166 [C0]         SL9HM                                                                Intel Xeon 2M - Unknown
5106F7   Clovertown-3000 [B3]       SLAC3                                                                Intel Xeon 2 x 4M - Unknown
5206FB   Clovertown-3000 [G0]       SLAED                                                                Intel Xeon 2 x 4M - Unknown
53106A4  Bloomfield-2666 [C0]       SLBCH                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
54106A4  Bloomfield-2933 [C0]       SLBCK                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
55106A4  Bloomfield-3200 [C0]       SLBCJ                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
56106A5  Bloomfield-2666 [D0]       SLBEJ                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
57106A5  Bloomfield-2800 [D0]       SLBKP                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
58106A5  Bloomfield-3066 [D0]       SLBEN                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
59106A5  Bloomfield-3200 [D0]       SLBEU                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
60106A5  Bloomfield-3333 [D0]       SLBEQ                                                                Core i7 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown

61206C2  Gulftown-3200 [B1]         SLBVF                                                                Core i7 970 6 x 256K + 12M - Unknown
62206C2  Gulftown-3333 [B1]         SLBUZ                                                                Core i7 980X 6 x 256K + 12M - Unknown
63206C2  Gulftown-3333 [B1]         SLBYU                                                                Core i7 980 6 x 256K + 12M - Unknown
64206C2  Gulftown-3466 [B1]         SLBVZ                                                                Core i7 990X 6 x 256K + 12M - Unknown
65906E9  Kaby Lake-X-4000 [B0]      SR3FR                                                                Core i5 7640X 4 x 256K + 6M - Unknown
66906E9  Kaby Lake-X-4300 [B0]      SR3FP                                                                Core i7 7740X 4 x 256K + 8M - Unknown
67206C2  Westmere-3200 [B1]         SLC2E                                                                Xeon 5600 6 x 256K + 12M - Unknown
68206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-2800 [M1]  SR0RM                                                                Xeon E5-1 4 x 256K + 10M - Unknown
69206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [C2]  SR0JW                                                                Xeon E5-1 6 x 256K + 15M - Unknown
70206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [C2]  SR0JV                                                                Xeon E5-2 6 x 256K + 15M - Unknown
71206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [C2]  SR0JU                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
72206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1400 [C2]  SR0R1                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
73206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [M1]  SR0M1                                                                Xeon E5-2 4 x 256K + 10M - Unknown
74206D6  Sandy Bridge-EP-2100 [C1]  SR0HG                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
75206D6  Sandy Bridge-EP-2400 [C1]  SR0HB                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
76206D6  Sandy Bridge-EP-2600 [C1]  SR0HD                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
77206D6  Sandy Bridge-EP-3100 [C1]  SR0GX                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
78206D6  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [C1]  SR0HE                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown
79206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-1800 [C2]  SR0LY                                                                Xeon E5-2 6 x 256K + 15M - Unknown
80206D7  Sandy Bridge-EP-2600 [C2]  SR0L6                                                                Xeon E5-2 8 x 256K + 20M - Unknown

I was only 99.42% sure the Paxville-3000 QHBB information was correct so I played "musical CPUs" and and am now 100% sure.

I think this is the first time I have booted when sine 2011!, the system usually has 4 x SL9HA.

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-18, 20:47:

I think this is the first time I have booted when sine 2011!, the system usually has 4 x SL9HA.

How cool it would be if vogons formatted sSpecs as hyperlinks to CPU-world, as CPU-world does ... 😀

[edit] Posted this in the “New forum suggestions/Feedback” thread as well ...

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-18, 13:21:

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SIV32L - Checkout of S-Spec on \\RED - Windows 10 x64 Enterprise V10.00 Build 19045 22H2
CPUID Processor S-Spec Expected Actual CPUID Reason Description

Yes, it looks ok, thanks again.
Adding more does not appeal to me, I feel I have already gone to deep into the rabbit hole. This simple format does not support the more complex data of the later generations- that is probably also the reason why the Intel update sheets seem to become more deplete with the quad cores.
And I really feel that some of the older listings at the top of your list never made it into the wild read: existed only on paper.

H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-06-19, 06:01:

How cool it would be if vogons formatted sSpecs as hyperlinks to CPU-world, as CPU-world does ... 😀

It's easy enough to add links, I was just lazy.

I would really like to get SIV to link to CPU World, I added the code, but CPU World blocked the access !, see https://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php … p=329193#329193

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-19, 06:50:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-06-19, 06:01:

How cool it would be if vogons formatted sSpecs as hyperlinks to CPU-world, as CPU-world does ... 😀

It's easy enough to add links, I was just lazy.

I would really like to get SIV to link to CPU World, I added the code, but CPU World blocked the access !, see https://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php … p=329193#329193

I know, but on cpu-world it's done automagically. And I'm aware of the fact that external linking to a high extend is blocked, hence "How cool it would be" 😉

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-19, 06:35:

Adding more does not appeal to me, I feel I have already gone to deep into the rabbit hole. This simple format does not support the more complex data of the later generations- that is probably also the reason why the Intel update sheets seem to become more deplete with the quad cores.

I am not talking about earlier or later generations only filling in the gaps. Below are the 97 S-Specs that fall into this category and AFAIK most of them exist. SIV has 546 that are either pre Pentium-II or Ivy Bridge-EP or later and are a different matter.

I would like to have a screen with just the 15 duplicate s-spec listed.

The lack of data in later Intel S-Spec updates is really Intel becoming more secretive, later datasheets also have way less information than they used to have.

I have added a new panel which currently reports:

I feel the titles in your file could/should be improved.
Speeds such as 2266.00 clearly should be 2266.66.
There are lots of s-specs similar to PMF26602001AA, AFAIK these are not s-specs, what are they? SIV just ignores them.
Using this panel I added the few that I think exist that SIV did not have and SIV now reports:

The raw data for the new additions is:

SLBNL C2 020652h 1.87GHz Pentium P4000 2MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32445617US.pdf 1,3,4,6,7,8
SLBUX K0 020655h 2GHz Pentium P4000 2MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32445617US.pdf 1,3,4,6,7,8
SLBZY K0 020655h 2GHz Pentium P4000 2MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32445617US.pdf 1,3,4,6,7,8
SLBSM K0 020655h 1.33GHz Mobile U5000 3MB BGA 18 Intel Spec Update 32387408.pdf ultra low voltage 1,4,5,6,7
SLBUH K0 020655h 1.2GHz Mobile U5000 3MB BGA 18 Intel Spec Update 32387408.pdf ultra low voltage 1,4,5,6,7
Q4CT K0 020655h 2.27GHz Pentium P6000 3MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32387408.pdf 2,3,5,6,8
SLBU8 K0 020655h 2.27GHz Pentium P6000 3MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32387408.pdf 2,3,5,6,8
SLBWB C2 020652h 1.87GHz Pentium P6000 3MB PGA 35 Intel Spec Update 32387408.pdf 2,3,5,6,8

I noted:

They should all have Arrandale.
All the Arrandale L2 cache are <n> * 256KB where <n> is the number of cores. AFAIK this is the case for most post Core 2 CPUs up to at least Skylake.
P4000 are Celeron not Pentium, see https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLBNL.html
Your SLBUX speed is incorrect, see https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLBUX.html
You failed to add SLBQB through to SLBUA, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... CP,_32_nm)
I don't think SLGT5 exists, see https://www.google.com/search?q=Intel+%22SLGT5%22. I suspect it's a SLGU5 typo.
I suspect SLBQK does not exist, please post a link to one.

I feel I need a fixed file from you, when might there be one please?

Part of these comments are redundant because I am working on this thing too. The 'PMF' entries are product tracking codes wich I parked in the S-Spec column for later care - see attached.
But this is more like working, I was merely interested in finding anomalies and updating my file a bit. The line that I draw in the sand ends where quad core starts - they don't interest me and too much of the data does not fit in my ' box'..... so better teach SIV to ignore what I don't have.

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-19, 14:32:

better teach SIV to ignore what I don't have.

I have already stopped SIV reporting pre Pentium-II and Ivy Bridge-EP and later.

It's not that easy, it would be trivial for SIV not to report what you "don't have" and I have considered this, but this would mean things that you "should have" would not get reported.

I have always assumed that if you have any CPUs of a given generation you should have all of them.

At the moment you have such as Xeon Gulftown, but not Core i7 Gulftown, why? There are currently only 104 missing.

Thinking about this I feel you are 95% or more there, but if you wish to give up it's your call.

It is not a matter of 'giving up' . This thing was once started because I wanted an easy access to cpu's that interested me and the Intel sheets are the backbone. It didn't need to be 100% complete and it still doesn't..... it is an excerpt of the Intel sheets, never meant to be more and simple to put together. Adding individual listings from the web like from CPUW, Wiki etc is >>extremely tedious<< and I have been in such a rabbit hole before. In some past I wanted a full pedigree of one of my sighthounds and ended up with a pedigree database with over 200.000 entries which in the end were not useful in any way and at which I have not looked for years.

Frequencies that turn up like 1666.00 are the result of the database software adding [ .00 ] to an integer when a db format is conversed to txt - it just needs some setting changed ' somewhere' to turn up as 1.666. These are actually entered into the table as [1666] text, not [1.666] numerical.

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-19, 13:44:

Speeds such as 2266.00 clearly should be 2266.66.

PARKE wrote on 2025-06-20, 09:17:

Frequencies that turn up like 1666.00 are the result of the database software adding [ .00 ] to an integer when a db format is conversed to txt - it just needs some setting changed ' somewhere' to turn up as 1.666. These are actually entered into the table as [1666] text, not [1.666] numerical.

OK, I should have specified "clearly should be 2266.66 or 2266", either way were it my database I would have fixed it and posted a new .TSV file.

How come fsb is OK?

Further given the 2.27GHz I wonder, why 2266 rather than 2267?

red-ray wrote on 2025-06-20, 10:42:

OK, I should have specified "clearly should be 2266.66 or 2266", either way were it my database I would have fixed it and posted a new .TSV file.

If it bothers you open the file in notepad and replace [.00] with []
Thanks for the interesting trip and for sharing your knowledge.