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First post, by Perrow

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Greetings,

Sorry in advance for the wall of text.

I don't tend to frequent forums, but there is an old, nostalgic game I played as a child that I can't find a thing about no matter how hard I search, and I created this account for the sole purpose of checking if anyone here could help me finally find its name.

I am almost certain it is a DOS game, which I played in an emulator that came bundled with several games. I have this confidence because:

1. This game has a [design/structure] very similar to some DOS [RPG/Adventure] games I saw while searching for it. (More about that below)

2. I remember playing many games that were released for MS-DOS in an emulator; presumably, the same emulator through which I played this game.

3. I already checked *a lot* of SNES/Genesis games to no avail. (Because it seems I also had an SNES emulator, at some other point in my childhood.)

Below I will try to describe the game as I best recall it, but I played it as a small child about 20 years ago, and thus I may be misremembering a thing or two.

The game had a low-poly 3D world map viewed in first-person, similar to the world map of games like "Betrayal at Krondor". You started the game with 1 character, which looked like to be a tribesman. You wandered in that low-poly world map, which seemed to depict a wilderness area with grasslands, hills, maybe forests, and the like.

While wandering there was a chance a random encounter would happen. When a random encounter happened, the view switched from the 3D world map to a third-person 2D map, the layout of which was similar to that of games like "Alien Logic": Your character was placed at the left edge of the 2D map, and whatever or whoever he encountered was placed at the right edge, with a 2D background filling the map.

You could encounter animals and people. Regarding the animals, I remember the game having what looked like rabbits, peacocks, [wolves/hyenas], and bipedal bears. Regarding the people, they all also looked like tribesmen. I never advanced far into the game, so it's entirely possible there are other types of encounters past the beginning of this game.

Some random encounters (especially those with [wolves/hyenas] and bear-like bipedal creatures) were hostile from the start, which meant you had to fight whatever you encountered. Combats happened in real-time, still in that 2D map. Besides the typical melee beatdown, you (and the enemy) could do things like throw spear-like weapons and crouch down.

Some random encounters were not hostile from the start. In those cases, if you encountered people, you had dialog options to choose from, displayed in a user interface below the 2D map. Depending on your choices, the people you encountered could become hostile, prompting the combat.

Unfortunately, I remember virtually nothing from the dialogs themselves. That not only is because I played this game a long time ago, but also because at that time I knew very little English (this is not my native language), so I was choosing dialog options almost totally clueless of what they meant.

I think you started the game near or inside a tribe, to which your character belonged or at least was on good terms with. I say that because it was common for me to have random encounters with tribesmen at the very start of the game if I wandered around my starting location, and I don't remember these encounters ever starting hostile, nor it was common to have my dialog choices turning these tribesmen hostile.

If I wandered far on the map, I could have random encounters with tribesmen that looked different from the ones I could meet in the beginning, and those either started the encounter hostile or were very easy to become hostile by dialog choices.

I remember the game had a "bonding" mechanic, in which you could have a random encounter with an animal that turned out to be "attracted" to you. When that happened, the bonded animal would follow you through the maps, and be at your side on new encounters, even helping you in combats if capable. The animal could permanently die, and even you could kill it, accidentally or not. Usually, docile animals, like rabbits, were the most likely to get bonded to your character, but this could also happen with normally hostile animals. When an animal bonded to you, I remember that a red heart symbol was displayed somewhere in the user interface (I think in the bottom panel of the 2D maps, next to a portrait of the animal).

If I remember well, in a "normal" encounter the game automatically placed me back in the 3D world after the encounter was resolved, either by me winning its combat or by finishing the dialog choices. But in an encounter with an animal that became bonded, that didn't happen by default. If I walked to the edge of the 2D map, by default a new (and usually empty) 2D map would be displayed next, and so on until one of those 2D maps would have a new, "normal" encounter.

One particularly strong memory I have from this game was when a peacock-like creature became bonded to me. I didn't know how to leave the 2D map outside of having a normal encounter next, and that could take a while moving through empty 2D maps. In that specific case, it was taking too long. I eventually got frustrated and fiddled with (almost) all the keys on my keyboard to try to find a way of leaving to the 3D map, to no avail. With deep sorrow, I then decided to kill the peacock, so that in sequence I would automatically be put in the 3D map. At the time I was a very sensible child when it came to animals, and I almost cried for having to kill the bonded peacock in order to leave the 2D maps.

Does anyone have any idea of what game this could be? As I said, I may be misremembering a thing or two, so even suggestions that do not match exactly with everything I said could be the game I am looking for.

Reply 1 of 8, by gerry

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Perrow wrote on 2025-06-19, 03:51:

Greetings,

Sorry in advance for the wall of text.

that's ok - it was a good description but i think hasn't triggered memories. I hope you find it, maybe looks at lists like

https://dungeoncrawlers.org/platforms/ms-dos/

though i guess you already did quite a lot of searching

if you find it let us know 😀 and maybe someone in the forums will take a good guess too

Reply 2 of 8, by Perrow

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Thanks for the link, I didn't know about this site, nor that the game I am looking seems to fit reasonably well in the dungeon crawler niche.

My quest for finding the game's name continues, but later today I plan to check the list in the link you gave, and maybe then I will finally find it.

Reply 3 of 8, by SScorpio

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If going through the list doesn't help. There's a dedicated Reddit community for this. I've seen some really obscure figured out even though the poster misremembered things about the game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmyjoystick/

Reply 4 of 8, by Malik

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I doubt it's Albion, but anyway "tribes" and mix of 3D and 2D views reminded me of that.

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Reply 6 of 8, by Perrow

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Nope, it's not Albion. Unfortunately, it's not any of the games on that dungeon crawler list either.

I noticed that none of the dungeon crawlers on that list seem to have real-time combat in a 2D layout like the one I remember, so I think it's possible that the site doesn't consider games like the one I'm searching as a dungeon crawler. Either that or it's a really obscure game.

I plan to do a bit more searching, but if I continue having no success I will also leave a post on the Reddit community that SScorpio mentioned – by the way, thanks for the link, SScorpio.

Reply 7 of 8, by Ozzuneoj

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Perrow wrote on 2025-06-24, 11:57:

Nope, it's not Albion. Unfortunately, it's not any of the games on that dungeon crawler list either.

I noticed that none of the dungeon crawlers on that list seem to have real-time combat in a 2D layout like the one I remember, so I think it's possible that the site doesn't consider games like the one I'm searching as a dungeon crawler. Either that or it's a really obscure game.

I plan to do a bit more searching, but if I continue having no success I will also leave a post on the Reddit community that SScorpio mentioned – by the way, thanks for the link, SScorpio.

This also is probably not it, but the real-time combat you mention made me think of Drakkhen... though nothing else is really similar to what you've described.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 8 of 8, by Malik

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-06-24, 18:02:
Perrow wrote on 2025-06-24, 11:57:

Nope, it's not Albion. Unfortunately, it's not any of the games on that dungeon crawler list either.

I noticed that none of the dungeon crawlers on that list seem to have real-time combat in a 2D layout like the one I remember, so I think it's possible that the site doesn't consider games like the one I'm searching as a dungeon crawler. Either that or it's a really obscure game.

I plan to do a bit more searching, but if I continue having no success I will also leave a post on the Reddit community that SScorpio mentioned – by the way, thanks for the link, SScorpio.

This also is probably not it, but the real-time combat you mention made me think of Drakkhen... though nothing else is really similar to what you've described.

I first thought of Drakkhen too from the description hints. And I also thought of Eternam, since it uses the same engine. But since OP mentioned "tribes", I bypassed these. And most importantly, the screen does not go to 2D during combat.

And also, there was the Realms of Arkania series, especially Shadows Over Riva. But these are all downright hardcore RPGs.

I wonder if the OP's question is about CD based game or floppy-only...

Guess the OP's question is not what I have played before. Mostly because I don't remember encountering peacocks or something similar. Rabbits, yes - but in Secret of Mana, a SNES game, though.

P.S. @Ozzuneoj - Seems like we went through similar nostalgic games.

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