Rialto on it's own works just fine, but not with a radiator dumping heat in all directions on top of it.

I removed the card from my Pentium 3, it certainly have lots of buggy things with old games support, nevertheless more modern XP style games runs fine. Nvidia 6600 GT is still much better solution for compability sake, both 98 3D games and early XP runs just fine. I only having problem with early DOS and 3D games, but for that i will built another less powerfull system, this is just too hard task to make it all work in one configuration for my personal needs.
I`m sure HD 2600 would work amazing on dual core computer.

That's one issue with this card - even if/when it works - old games do not work because of compatibility, new games do not work because it is going to be too slow.

In dual core system in most cases pci-e would be available and much newer, faster cards would be beneficial. Yes, dual core with AGP is possible, but only if done deliberately for some reason.

I don't see any practical use in DX10 hardware on AGP system, even if it's Radeon 3850.

x264 video hardware acceleration + perf/power metric ?

x264 was nice to have back in the day no doubt, but nowadays... what's the point in trying to play it on vintage hardware?

Also at least from what i've seen (it would be nice to see actual measurements) idle power consumption is quite high on this cards, so performance/power would not necessarily be all that great with low load....

agent_x007 wrote on 2025-07-10, 22:33:

x264 video hardware acceleration + perf/power metric ?

1) Practically pointless after almost 20 years.
2) I don't see much use for that outside of benchmarking. Granted, you can still use some of Radeon X1xxx AGP cards which apparently are software monitored/moddable by ATItool in various ways (voltage, timings, etc).

agent_x007 wrote on 2025-07-06, 20:02:

Yes, I think we are done here.

OK

Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-09, 02:53:

That's one issue with this card - even if/when it works - old games do not work because of compatibility, new games do not work because it is going to be too slow.

I agree completely, but 2600 family (hi, agent_x007) had very different designs.

I held such a Sapphire Radeon HD 2600 XT GDDR4 in my hands, but it was already dead, unfortunately.
Looks and feels very cool.
One can only wish to have this in one's collection at working state.

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-06, 19:08:

Here is mine ATI HD 2600 MSI 256mb DDR2 agp

It's like the series "Xena: Warrior Princess" - about old things in a new way.
In those years, heat pipes were not widely used.
Cool thing.

shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 14:25:

I agree completely, but 2600 family (hi, agent_x007) had very different designs. https://ua.gecid.com/data/video/200708100000-21 […]
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I agree completely, but 2600 family (hi, agent_x007) had very different designs.

I held such a Sapphire Radeon HD 2600 XT GDDR4 in my hands, but it was already dead, unfortunately.
Looks and feels very cool.
One can only wish to have this in one's collection at working state.

Yeah, that's a very cool card, especially with how short-lived GDDR4 was.

Probably somewhere very close to the end of single slot coolers for high end cards too, though i am definitely not a fan of this style of coolers and the way they are built from practical point of view. They suffer from typical issues modern laptops have - heatsink gets completely clogged with dust really fast. And since the screws holding plastic cover have to be unscrewed from the underside of the cooler - whole cooling system has to be disassembled to clean. Regularly, once a twice a year depending on amount of dust around. Very annoying maintenance, and perhaps a reason for dead cards.

By the way - are this affected by bumpgate-related issues, or are they already fixed?

Archer57 wrote on Yesterday, 15:03:

Very annoying maintenance, and perhaps a reason for dead cards.

offtopic
Now they've finally started using air filters in computer cases.
But the turbine itself is noisy.
But the rtx5090 design with a gap between the brackets - that looks completely cool.

Archer57 wrote on Yesterday, 15:03:

By the way - are this affected by bumpgate-related issues, or are they already fixed?

Presumably not affected, because ATi used different substrate packaging. Obviously still died from dust clogging, crappy case ventilation, etc. Better substrate is not a silver bullet.

The Serpent Rider wrote on Yesterday, 21:45:

Presumably not affected, because ATi used different substrate packaging. Obviously still died from dust clogging, crappy case ventilation, etc. Better substrate is not a silver bullet.

Well, ATI definitely made some chips defective in the same way, xbox360 GPU being the most well known example. Though that is 90nm IIRC, which coincides with radeon X1nnn, not HD2nnn. What's interesting is at which point they stopped doing that. I'd guess HD2nnn probably should not be affected, but i am definitely not sure about that...