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Reply 20 of 28, by CharlieFoxtrot

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douglar wrote on 2025-07-11, 03:37:

Yes, the 8514a compatibles were > $2000 cards when they came out in the late 80’s. Your 386 20 could out perform like a $20,000 cad station! They lost much of their value when a 486-33 could out pace them for rendering, undesirable dinosaurs when S3 & Mach32 VLB cards could draw 10x faster, and forgotten relics by the time of PCI. Things moved fast back then.

This here is what is one of the most fascinating things with retro computing, the rise and fall of things. Like with these graphics accelerators that thrived for few years in professional space, computing history is filled with stuff where commodity stuff sooner or later manages to reach and ultimately surpasses these expensive special and focused solutions. Same thing happened with computers based on specialized chipsets (Amiga etc) and later companies like Sun, SGI and all the other Unix/RISC manufacturers found it increasingly difficult to compete with much cheaper and increasingly better performing commodity x86 PCs. And thus Unix WSs died almost overnight because of the huge performance leaps of PCs in the late 90s and early 2000s and where the bursting of dot com bubble worked as a perfect catalyst.

Then again, as years progressed and the variety of different and sometimes odd technological soulutions decreased, things tend to get increasingly more boring from the retro computing point of view, at least in my opinion.

Reply 21 of 28, by Grzyb

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douglar wrote on 2025-07-12, 12:52:

Sounds like the custom vlsi/verticom chips in the OP’s card might have been more of a fixed function device. Perhaps western digital acquired verticom to get that functionality.

Very likely.

Here we can see the two-chip VLSI/Verticom product from 1988.

Later on, there was the two-chip WD9500 8514/A clone, with 1989 copyright:
https://theretroweb.com/expansioncard/image/a … 58636925808.jpg
http://www.yjfy.com/images/oldhard/video/WD8514VGA.jpg

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Reply 22 of 28, by nzoomed

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Well here is another piece of rare hardware, this appears to be some sort of EGA accelerator.

Reply 23 of 28, by douglar

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Now that 'm up to speed on Verticom, I'd say it's a Verticom H16. That's a $5900 EGA EGA Sandwich from 1987. Wasn't even the high end version. But looks like it has a ram expansion on there which could have easily added another $1500.

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https://archive.org/details/1987.11-your-comp … ?q=Verticom+H16

This is from 1991. People were already scrambling for drivers.....

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https://archive.org/details/computer-graphics … Verticom+H16+HP

Reply 24 of 28, by nzoomed

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Yes this is indeed another verticom, crazy to think what this was worth new, it most certainly has a fair bit of RAM.
Now only if i could get my hands on those drivers...

Reply 25 of 28, by nzoomed

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douglar wrote on 2025-07-12, 21:14:
Now that 'm up to speed on Verticom, I'd say it's a Verticom H16. That's a $5900 EGA EGA Sandwich from 1987. Wasn't even the h […]
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Now that 'm up to speed on Verticom, I'd say it's a Verticom H16. That's a $5900 EGA EGA Sandwich from 1987. Wasn't even the high end version. But looks like it has a ram expansion on there which could have easily added another $1500.

The attachment h16.jpg is no longer available

https://archive.org/details/1987.11-your-comp … ?q=Verticom+H16

This is from 1991. People were already scrambling for drivers.....

The attachment h16.jpg is no longer available

https://archive.org/details/computer-graphics … Verticom+H16+HP

Here are the photos you were after.
Hope its of some help.

Reply 26 of 28, by nzoomed

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4 more photos.

Reply 27 of 28, by thisisamigaspeaking

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douglar wrote on 2025-07-12, 01:03:
nzoomed wrote on 2025-07-12, 00:11:

Perhaps a user manual and drivers will surface someday for this.
I think it might be easy enough to make my own cable should I find the right connectors, these cables were not particularly rare, but I dont have one anymore.
I could carefully cut down a floppy connector as you say if worst comes to worse.

Pepino posted some pictures of a driver disk and manual here: https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … erticom-hx16-at

I reached out to him to see if he can share

Did anything ever come of the driver disk? It'd be extremely nice to archive that.

This is not an M board. I have two variants of them. I'd say this is the HX 8514/A type board. Fixed function.

OP, did you find any other boards that generally looked like this, regardless of brand? Something full length with multiple large chips and not obviously a VGA card, from 1988 or so?

Reply 28 of 28, by thisisamigaspeaking

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nzoomed wrote on 2025-07-12, 20:34:

Well here is another piece of rare hardware, this appears to be some sort of EGA accelerator.

No do you still have that? Don't hook that up to an EGA monitor. I don't think it would damage anything but it's not an EGA card, it's a H-16, 16-color PGC clone. I'd pay you something for it. I have a couple of those but I'm not sure either fully works.

The M series were more direct PGC clones. I'm not sure what the story is on the H card entirely. They seem to partially respond to the PGC type commands. They cost more than the M cards at the time.