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First post, by LoStSOul

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Hi everyone,

Anyone have this soundcard ? i didn't found this exact model (with good quality) on web, there are some variants very different from this..
I will try to repair, at first look there are missing crystals and capacitors

X3 - 24.576

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Reply 1 of 12, by Tiido

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You need 16.000MHz for the CS9233 and 16.9344MHz + 24.576MHz for the CS4248. The small capacitors can all be 10µF and sound will come out fine (original likely had a number of 1µF ones but that is only gonna limit low freq response). The two larger ones near outputs should be as high value you can physicall fit since that determines the low freq response, 220µF and higher is the ballpark there.

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Reply 2 of 12, by LoStSOul

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Tiido wrote on 2025-07-20, 18:06:

You need 16.000MHz for the CS9233 and 16.9344MHz + 24.576MHz for the CS4248. The small capacitors can all be 10µF and sound will come out fine (original likely had a number of 1µF ones but that is only gonna limit low freq response). The two larger ones near outputs should be as high value you can physicall fit since that determines the low freq response, 220µF and higher is the ballpark there.

Thanks!!!

any ideia of top crystal X1 near DSP-9410A ?

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Reply 3 of 12, by keropi

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LoStSOul wrote on 2025-07-20, 20:20:

Thanks!!!

any ideia of top crystal X1 near DSP-9410A ?

there are some close-ups here: https://retrosoundcards.wordpress.com/categor … allant-sc-8000/
X1 is 16mhz xtal

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Reply 4 of 12, by Tiido

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It is probably 12, 16, or 24MHz, like seen on Creative cards and many other clones.

EDIT: it is definitely a 12MHz ceramic resonator that is supposed to go there.

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Reply 6 of 12, by LoStSOul

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LoStSOul wrote on 2025-07-20, 20:20:

any ideia of top crystal X1 near DSP-9410A ?

my bad, X2 near DSP

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Reply 8 of 12, by Matth79

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Some view source and save

Reply 9 of 12, by weedeewee

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keropi wrote on 2025-07-20, 21:01:

there is a high res pic here: https://allegro.pl/oferta/isa-crystal-cs4231a … oxz-17487770525
but I have found no easy way to save it ... it does show that X2 is 12mhz though

in firefox 140,
click on the lock icon left of the URL in the address bar, then
click on 'connection secure', then
click on 'more information', then
click on 'media', then
sort by size,
select the biggest image in this case and click on 'save as' to save a local copy.

Or right click and select 'copy' to get the link
https://a.allegroimg.com/original/112535/b4db … HOOL-100-OK-OxZ

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Reply 10 of 12, by keropi

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weedeewee wrote on Yesterday, 07:37:
in firefox 140, click on the lock icon left of the URL in the address bar, then click on 'connection secure', then click on ' […]
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keropi wrote on 2025-07-20, 21:01:

there is a high res pic here: https://allegro.pl/oferta/isa-crystal-cs4231a … oxz-17487770525
but I have found no easy way to save it ... it does show that X2 is 12mhz though

in firefox 140,
click on the lock icon left of the URL in the address bar, then
click on 'connection secure', then
click on 'more information', then
click on 'media', then
sort by size,
select the biggest image in this case and click on 'save as' to save a local copy.

Or right click and select 'copy' to get the link
https://a.allegroimg.com/original/112535/b4db … HOOL-100-OK-OxZ

Thanks for the tip!

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Reply 11 of 12, by LoStSOul

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I think i have all information to try revive this card 😁
thank you guys!

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