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First post, by old school gamer man

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This is something not a lot of folks know that I wanted to put out there. Some of the glue on a lot of older PSU's used to hold the bigger caps in place or on coils to prevent coil whine was hydroscopic, in a nut shell this means the glue can absorb water... I don't think I need to tell you how bad that can be. 😮

Now the chances of the glue shorting anything out is low but it is known to happen.
As far as I know there is no way to know if the glue is hydroscopic just by looking at it until its to late, the glue will turn a dookie brown/yellow and will start to have little pin holes in the glue. It looks a lot like aged yellow ABS plastic. I'm trying to find some good photos of it but I'm not finding any online, I do have a old PSU in my scrap pile some ware that has the problem if I find it I'll post a photo of it so you all know what to look out for. Also miketech had a few videos where he worked on a PSU with the problem but I don't recall what video it was.

But whats the fix? You more or less have 3 options, remove the glue and replace it with a non hydroscopic glue, replace the PSU, or take a chance and use it with a silica gel pack or two near the PSU, you could put it inside the PSU but that's iffy and I would not recommend that.

Reply 1 of 5, by akimmet

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This is a well known phenomenon in the electronics repair community.
The only correct option is to remove the glue.
Not all failures have been attributed to moisture. Some adhesives used for PCB assembly have been found to become conductive when exposed to high temperatures.

Reply 2 of 5, by Archer57

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old school gamer man wrote on 2025-07-22, 18:58:

...or take a chance and use it with a silica gel pack or two near the PSU, you could put it inside the PSU but that's iffy and I would not recommend that.

For some reason silica gel is often treated like it is magic substance which deletes all water in significant radius. It is not. It absorbs limited amount of water at a limited rate. It is only useful inside of dry sealed container to mitigate water permeating through container walls and keep it dry for a limited amount of time.

When placed in open air it will quickly get saturated and do absolutely nothing.

So placing it near or inside the PSU will have the same effect as buying new caps and placing them near the PSU in a baggie.

Reply 3 of 5, by old school gamer man

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Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-23, 00:16:
For some reason silica gel is often treated like it is magic substance which deletes all water in significant radius. It is not. […]
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old school gamer man wrote on 2025-07-22, 18:58:

...or take a chance and use it with a silica gel pack or two near the PSU, you could put it inside the PSU but that's iffy and I would not recommend that.

For some reason silica gel is often treated like it is magic substance which deletes all water in significant radius. It is not. It absorbs limited amount of water at a limited rate. It is only useful inside of dry sealed container to mitigate water permeating through container walls and keep it dry for a limited amount of time.

When placed in open air it will quickly get saturated and do absolutely nothing.

So placing it near or inside the PSU will have the same effect as buying new caps and placing them near the PSU in a baggie.

learn to flipping read my guy, I said if you wanted to take a chance and risk it, I never said that was a proper fix... i'm starting to think most people here are idiots.

Reply 4 of 5, by old school gamer man

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akimmet wrote on 2025-07-22, 23:18:

This is a well known phenomenon in the electronics repair community.
The only correct option is to remove the glue.
Not all failures have been attributed to moisture. Some adhesives used for PCB assembly have been found to become conductive when exposed to high temperatures.

indeed it is well known among hardware repair groups but oddly not with retro computer people who seem to think psu for a pc holds 1000s of volts even when turned off and will kill if you even look inside it...

yeah the high temp shorting out glue is a problem too, but it's far less common in computer power supplies. it mostly effects crap PSUs from the early 00's aka the stuff hardly anyone would use.
But it's still something people should know about too

Reply 5 of 5, by Archer57

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old school gamer man wrote on 2025-07-23, 03:07:

learn to flipping read my guy, I said if you wanted to take a chance and risk it, I never said that was a proper fix... i'm starting to think most people here are idiots.

Does not matter why you suggested it - there is no "chance" here, you are suggesting actions which are completely useless and do nothing. This is spreading misinformation at best, intentionally harmful advice at worst - because suggesting obviously useless "fix" is harmful.

And then you call others names when you are called out on this. Straight into ignore list you go...