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First post, by Matrolisk

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I'm trying to find the keyboard that went with the computer my parents had when I was a kid. I can find similar ones but none match it exactly.
It was used with an IBM 5160 Clone bought around 1987 so had an XT connection.

It looked like a model M keyboard
DSC09960-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1920&ssl=1

But had this switch to lower the feet
027.jpg?fit=1024%2C663&ssl=1

And the enter key was the big reverse L kind

Reply 2 of 6, by Grem Five

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I dont know which ones looked like Model Ms but I think I have seen other XT capable keyboards that have the same feet mechanism.

Last edited by Grem Five on 2025-08-06, 19:59. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 3 of 6, by wierd_w

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Be mindful, model M had siblings.

Model F and pals, for example.

Reply 4 of 6, by Grem Five

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Oooppps my bad, after doing a search I couldnt find another keyboard other than the Model F that had that feet mechanism. I was sure I had another brand of keyboard that did but after looking through my collection I have one with similar swing down feet that works on my XT and has the model M key layout (Maxi switch) but they are activated by a push button design.

I must have thought it was the same knob design as my Model F.

Reply 5 of 6, by dionb

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Matrolisk wrote on 2025-08-06, 19:04:
I'm trying to find the keyboard that went with the computer my parents had when I was a kid. I can find similar ones but none ma […]
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I'm trying to find the keyboard that went with the computer my parents had when I was a kid. I can find similar ones but none match it exactly.
It was used with an IBM 5160 Clone bought around 1987 so had an XT connection.

It looked like a model M keyboard
DSC09960-scaled.jpeg?fit=2560%2C1920&ssl=1

But had this switch to lower the feet
027.jpg?fit=1024%2C663&ssl=1

Combination of IBM Enhanced (frequently called "Model M") layout with Model F build? I like 😀

And the enter key was the big reverse L kind

Could you be more specific? This could be one of a few things:

- standard ISO Enter:
Enter-Key-1.jpeg

- "big ass enter" common on Alps-based keyboards:
s2ykqpzimwnc1.jpeg

- actually a (much more uncommon) reverse-L shape:

The attachment l-shape.JPG is no longer available

Also, how wide is the backspace key? Single size (ugh :r ) or proper double size?
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Finally, how did it feel/sound?
- quiet linear (no click or bump)
- quiet tactile (no click but a bump at/near actuation)
- clicky (sound&feel hopefully at/near actuation)

The Model F leg extender mechanism indicates this clone manufacturer wanted to stay close to IBM look&feel, but combining that with Enhanced Layout is something IBM never did. But should have done...

Reply 6 of 6, by Matrolisk

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I have seen model f keyboards with the feet knobs but they all had the function keys on the side. This one had them across the top.

The enter key was the "big ass enter" one.

Also the Caps Lock and other lights are exactly the same style as shown in the first picture.