shevalier wrote on Today, 07:26:
I would agree with you completely if we were talking about Tualatin.
No energy-saving technologies, the temperature is always 45 degrees regardless of the load and 30 watts of consumption.
But GT(x? I don't remember all these NVIDIA prefixes)560, which I personally had to delidded a year after the warranty expired, completely disagree with you.
Well, it is completely possible and likely that i simply have not seen cases severe enough. And then it can lead to more subtle issues like local overheating in areas which are no longer making good contact...
But i've seen so many people break their stuff trying to fix something that was not broken in the first place that i am kind of allergic to whole idea of thermal compound related "maintenance".
At least with modern hardware there is no need to guess anymore or replace thermal compound "just in case", ability to monitor temperatures including hotspot makes decision when to delid or just repaste very easy to make.
AlexZ wrote on Today, 08:24:
All my 9800 GT cards have broken fan regulation. Not only they run fan at like 35-40% regardless of temperature, fan control is inverted. If you set it to 20% the fan runs faster. Re-pasting has lead to 4-5'C temperature reduction. I didn't delid any of them. Some had thermal compound that was completely solid, more like burned to the die, others had thermal compound similar to MX-2, very hard to remove. Keep them at about 60'C while gaming and they should last.
Back then people didn't use mesh cases and case airflow was very poor.
Yep, this has been pretty much my experience as well. Pull apart a card with 20 year old completely solidified thermal compound, replace it, get ~5C improvement.
Also somehow i hate modern "mesh cases" and cases built out of fans. Over9000 fans blowing in random directions through overplayed mesh+dust filter do not result in good airflow. This becomes very evident looking at how industrial systems, or even just gaming consoles are designed.
It is possible to get great airflow with cooling better than on open stand with just 1-2 correctly positioned fans in a case which is properly designed and is not made out of mesh. It is impossible with mesh though, so mesh is actively harmful in many situations.