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First post, by itsmelindsey

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Hi wonderful people,

I have a 380XD laptop that I am trying to install win98se on but the floppy drive is not functional. The hard drive came with 98 first edition installed with a lot of questionable bloat so I was able to confirm that the CD-ROM and PCMCIA slots are functioning. I have set that the PC should boot from CD 1st in the bios but it cannot locate my CD-ROM, I assume this is because my new hard drive has no drivers.

Can I install windows by doing any of the following, and if so, please tell me how (like you're talking to a 5-year-old please)
- Copy the contents of the boot floppy to a hard drive partition and use that to install from the windows cd
- Copy over the cd-rom drivers to allow me to boot from CD
- Copy windows98 to the hard drive and install from there?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am very very new to this

Reply 1 of 5, by MAZter

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Are you trying to boot from a CD-R, or the original Windows 98 installation disk?

Doom is what you want (c) MAZter

Reply 2 of 5, by DaveDDS

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Does the system still boot - can you read the CD you are trying to boot from?
Can you read other CDs?

You shouldn't need "drivers" (or any OS) to install W98 from CD.
I just did this a few days ago under PCEM from a .ISO of Win98-2 CD to a freshly created
blank hard drive image - it would be the same on real hardware.

If the BIOS offers the option to boot from CD, it will have it's own internal low-level
CD drivers - it won't need anything else.

Does the CD spin-up and get read when you try booting .. perhaps the CD doesn't have a
boot - do you have any other bootable CD's you can try? - WinXP, Win7, Linux etc.
(You don't have to actually install whatever the CD is - just trying to confirm that
booting from CD works)

Do you know why the floppy doesn't work? - Have you tried cleaning it?
The reason I ask, is that if you have another workings system with a floppy, I
could send you a floppy image of DOS with CD drivers (assuming it's an IDE-CD)
that you could boot and see if the CD works

Dave ::: https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ::: "Daves Old Computers"->Personal

Reply 3 of 5, by MikeSG

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itsmelindsey wrote on 2025-08-29, 06:51:
Can I install windows by doing any of the following, and if so, please tell me how (like you're talking to a 5-year-old please) […]
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Can I install windows by doing any of the following, and if so, please tell me how (like you're talking to a 5-year-old please)
- Copy the contents of the boot floppy to a hard drive partition and use that to install from the windows cd
- Copy over the cd-rom drivers to allow me to boot from CD
- Copy windows98 to the hard drive and install from there?

You can't do any of those... Hard drives need an MBR record to be recognised as a boot drive, CD-ROM drivers are needed but need a bootable DOS first.

Unless your BIOS can be set to boot from CD...

Step I would take:
1) If the floppy drive doesn't work, take out the hard drive and put it in a computer with a working floppy drive.
2) If it's the only HDD in the computer, create an MS or PC-DOS boot disk. PC-DOS is IBM. Boot from the disk.
3) Format the drive with "format c: /q /s". /s creates the MBR record and copies command.com. Install PC-DOS or MS-DOS or just copy the DOS files over to the drive, including autoexec.bat & config.sys.
4) Edit autoexec.bat & config.sys to load one of the CD-ROM drivers (ask if you need help with that), or install CD-ROM drivers from a floppy disk.
5) Install the HDD in the IBM Thinkpad. Boot to DOS. Test CD-ROM drivers load correctly. Boot from the Win98 CD.

Reply 4 of 5, by itsmelindsey

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Thank you so much wonderful people, turns out my floppy drive just needed the write heads cleaned and I'd accidentally written by CD-R in 2x instead of 1x speed. I created a boot floppy and installed 98SE directly then installed 380XD drivers but wasn't happy with the level of hardware compatibility, so I installed from the 98FE 385XD recovery disk on archive and I'm using the updates disk to get to FE. I can confirm that you don't need a boot floppy to install 98FE from the 385XD recovery disk. In the middle of the SE upgrade now, fingers crossed. Thank you again everyone!

Reply 5 of 5, by DaveDDS

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Good to hear. Glad things worked out.

Seems the only question remaining is why it didn't boot from CD (if you still care) - perhaps this is related to the 2x/1x thing.
I'm assuming you made a new CD at 1x - did that one boot? You shouldn't have needed to go to floppies. (As noted before, I
recently confirmed that at least the "2nd edition" W98 CD boots).

Dave ::: https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ::: "Daves Old Computers"->Personal