dm- wrote on 2025-09-04, 03:14:
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Please join! This is not "my thread" - it's a collection, to whoever wants to share their results! Thanks for showing it here!
kotel wrote on 2025-09-03, 16:19:If I may ask, what was that AGP data lines tester tool you've used in the first post? How does it work? (if you know this)
It's one of those combined PCIe & AGP testers from aliexpress.
Basically it has one AGP slot and two PCIe slots (both in parallel, not sure why they included two of them).
They leverage the fact that GPUs have ESD protection diodes on their I/O pins. Those diodes are there to redirect over-voltage on the inputs to the power rails, meaning positive spikes to something like VDDC and negative ones to GND. Basically anything that is around 0.7V > than the supply voltage of that input section of 0.7 < GND will be flowing through those protection diodes. They are however not very current capable. So they don't protect the GPU from a user forcing a lot of power into an I/O pin.
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However the tester uses these protection diodes in a funny way. They *short* both the cards power rails and GND together, so that there will be no current flowing into the power circuitry of the card. Then they connect that combined rail to a supply voltage around 5V.
They then connect an LED + resistor onto each I/O pin of the AGP slot. Due to the diodes in the GPU, there will be a current flow through the GND protection diode (D2 in my drawing) of the GPU.
The drawing is *very* simplified, but basically shows the idea. If an LED is much brighter than the other ones, the current does *not* flow through the GPU but there is a bridge somewhere to a power rail. If an LED is not lighting up, the connection to the GPU is missing.
For PCIe they're doing a bit more fancy stuff, they use some logic ICs + Pulsed voltage, since the data pair lines of PCIe have capacitors in series, which only allow for AC current to go through.
All in all a handy little device for a first check, if anybody is still home.