xtreger wrote on 2025-09-16, 19:23:

I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different dri […]
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I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different drivers - BFG's 7800 GS driver, the Official Nvidia 77.72 driver (force install of 6800 Ultra), and the unofficial 7xxx driver downloaded from retroweb.

In all the cases, after I install the driver, I notice the following behavior: everything works fine as long as I do anything on the local machine. As soon as I try to access a file on the local intranet via Network Neighborhood, the mouse just freezes completely. If I try to do multiple actions with files on the local server - e.g. checking properties or opening, etc., the machine hangs temporarily and takes a minute or so to resume normally.

I've noticed that the network adapter and the GPU are both assigned IRQ 10. I've tried R. Loew's FIXINTR.VXD, FIXINTRA.VXD and FIXEOI.VXD fixes, but no luck with any of those.

Before installing the driver though, the network access is flawless. Also one more important observation (post Nvidia driver install) - every time I log in to Win98, the mouse trouble is there, but as soon as I update the mouse driver, the whole problem goes away (temporarily until I log in next time though).

Anyone faced this before? Any way to solve the problem permanently?

USB or PS/2? I've had lots of weird issues with USB mice and just decided to stick to PS/2.

As for the RLOEW Interrupt fixes I've only ever needed them on really modern Chipsets like P55 with G71. benchmarks like 3dmark2001 would just go to a black screen between tests with out them, requiring a reboot. Documentation is poor on those So I'd love to hear how and why others used them.

Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-16, 22:21:

xtreger wrote on 2025-09-16, 19:23:

I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different dri […]
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I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different drivers - BFG's 7800 GS driver, the Official Nvidia 77.72 driver (force install of 6800 Ultra), and the unofficial 7xxx driver downloaded from retroweb.

In all the cases, after I install the driver, I notice the following behavior: everything works fine as long as I do anything on the local machine. As soon as I try to access a file on the local intranet via Network Neighborhood, the mouse just freezes completely. If I try to do multiple actions with files on the local server - e.g. checking properties or opening, etc., the machine hangs temporarily and takes a minute or so to resume normally.

I've noticed that the network adapter and the GPU are both assigned IRQ 10. I've tried R. Loew's FIXINTR.VXD, FIXINTRA.VXD and FIXEOI.VXD fixes, but no luck with any of those.

Before installing the driver though, the network access is flawless. Also one more important observation (post Nvidia driver install) - every time I log in to Win98, the mouse trouble is there, but as soon as I update the mouse driver, the whole problem goes away (temporarily until I log in next time though).

Anyone faced this before? Any way to solve the problem permanently?

USB or PS/2? I've had lots of weird issues with USB mice and just decided to stick to PS/2.

As for the RLOEW Interrupt fixes I've only ever needed them on really modern Chipsets like P55 with G71. benchmarks like 3dmark2001 would just go to a black screen between tests with out them, requiring a reboot. Documentation is poor on those So I'd love to hear how and why others used them.

I've tried both PS/2 and USB - same result. For now I'm just using the ATI X850 till I can somehow fix this issue. I wish I knew how to get working knowledge of Win98 like RLoew had...

xtreger wrote on Yesterday, 07:10:

Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-16, 22:21:

xtreger wrote on 2025-09-16, 19:23:

I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different dri […]
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I have a EX58-UD3R board, on which I have a 7080 GTX GPU installed. On Win98 running on that machine, I've tried 3 different drivers - BFG's 7800 GS driver, the Official Nvidia 77.72 driver (force install of 6800 Ultra), and the unofficial 7xxx driver downloaded from retroweb.

In all the cases, after I install the driver, I notice the following behavior: everything works fine as long as I do anything on the local machine. As soon as I try to access a file on the local intranet via Network Neighborhood, the mouse just freezes completely. If I try to do multiple actions with files on the local server - e.g. checking properties or opening, etc., the machine hangs temporarily and takes a minute or so to resume normally.

I've noticed that the network adapter and the GPU are both assigned IRQ 10. I've tried R. Loew's FIXINTR.VXD, FIXINTRA.VXD and FIXEOI.VXD fixes, but no luck with any of those.

Before installing the driver though, the network access is flawless. Also one more important observation (post Nvidia driver install) - every time I log in to Win98, the mouse trouble is there, but as soon as I update the mouse driver, the whole problem goes away (temporarily until I log in next time though).

Anyone faced this before? Any way to solve the problem permanently?

USB or PS/2? I've had lots of weird issues with USB mice and just decided to stick to PS/2.

As for the RLOEW Interrupt fixes I've only ever needed them on really modern Chipsets like P55 with G71. benchmarks like 3dmark2001 would just go to a black screen between tests with out them, requiring a reboot. Documentation is poor on those So I'd love to hear how and why others used them.

I've tried both PS/2 and USB - same result. For now I'm just using the ATI X850 till I can somehow fix this issue. I wish I knew how to get working knowledge of Win98 like RLoew had...

How about the unofficial driver 82.69? Or a different network adapter. It’s not like an X850 is that big of a compromise, maybe even sometimes faster.

I too wish I was smart enough to look under the hood like RLOEW and others.

Dothan Burger wrote on Yesterday, 12:35:

xtreger wrote on Yesterday, 07:10:

Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-16, 22:21:

USB or PS/2? I've had lots of weird issues with USB mice and just decided to stick to PS/2.

As for the RLOEW Interrupt fixes I've only ever needed them on really modern Chipsets like P55 with G71. benchmarks like 3dmark2001 would just go to a black screen between tests with out them, requiring a reboot. Documentation is poor on those So I'd love to hear how and why others used them.

I've tried both PS/2 and USB - same result. For now I'm just using the ATI X850 till I can somehow fix this issue. I wish I knew how to get working knowledge of Win98 like RLoew had...

How about the unofficial driver 82.69? Or a different network adapter. It’s not like an X850 is that big of a compromise, maybe even sometimes faster.

I too wish I was smart enough to look under the hood like RLOEW and others.

X850 is really good actually. The only problem is that it's a 64 bit motherboard - so I wanted to also install Win7 or Win10 64 bit along with large amount of RAM. The trouble is that on two different EX58 motherboards I've tried, installing more than 2 Gb RAM completely tanks 3D performance in Win98. It's a weird bug. Whereas 7800 GTX and 7900 GTX are powerful enough to give smooth performance even with that performance hit.

And changing the network adapter sounds good, but I have the realtek chip onboard and also a separate PCIe realtek LAN card - both give this issue. Realtek has been really awesome in terms of compatibility with DOS, Win3.1, Win9x, WinXP, Win10, Win11 - everything. So I'm a bit reluctant to switch to a different PCIe LAN card with a different chip.

In any case, I'll update if I find a solution. In the meanwhile if anything comes up from anyone here, I'll keep an eye out