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Reply 60 of 64, by TechieDude

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analog_programmer wrote on 2025-09-17, 17:55:
Yep, "useful for some AMI" means exactly what we discussed here some time ago and also what I described today (especially for yo […]
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TechieDude wrote on 2025-09-17, 14:27:

Yes, really. Read what you highlighted in green. Read it carefully. It says "useful for some AMI", NOT "only works on AMI"

Yep, "useful for some AMI" means exactly what we discussed here some time ago and also what I described today (especially for you): It may work on some AMI BIOSes and doesn't work on Award/Phoenix.

TechieDude wrote on 2025-09-17, 14:27:

I have. Never used that switch, though, since I don't mind that line of text.

So, you're trying to convince someone in something, that you've never ever tried... good luck next time!

...Yet YOU didn't even try the /L switch on an Award BIOS, did you? The one board I wanted to try it on can't even be patched with 6.00, only 4.23, which doesn't even have that switch.

Reply 61 of 64, by B24Fox

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TechieDude wrote on 2025-09-17, 12:06:
I don't know why you guys went through all the trouble hex editing the executable, when there's a perfectly usable /l switch on […]
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I don't know why you guys went through all the trouble hex editing the executable, when there's a perfectly usable /l switch on the 6.00Alpha15

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Haven't found this in other versions, but this is what I use anyway. The BIOS on the AB-PD5N was the only one that needed an older version (4.23 to be precise)

There are a lot more boards that unfortunately don't get along with BP 6.00A15
mine included: Re: "Bios Patcher" questions

Reply 62 of 64, by analog_programmer

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TechieDude wrote on 2025-09-17, 21:31:

...Yet YOU didn't even try the /L switch on an Award BIOS, did you?

Are you just trolling me or what?

I'm always trying /L switch with BP 6.00 as it costs me nothing and it never worked on Award/Phoenix BIOSes! And that's why I came with the patched version of BP 6.00 alpha 15. If you think it's 'broken" - I'm not gonna convince you, that it is not as you obviously have some weird view of things, especially the things you've only read about, but never tried or even understood.

TechieDude wrote on 2025-09-17, 21:31:

The on board I wanted to try it on can't even be patched with 6.00, only 4.23, which doesn't even have that switch.

Dude... this is entirely different problem and has nothing to do with the freakin' /L switch! And thinking nowadays became such a luxury.

BIOS Patcher 6.00 is an alpha version and it was not made by "apple_rom" (the original BP author), so probably BP 6.00 is less compatible than BP 4.xx versions.

And all of the BP versions depend on external programs like CBROM and AMIBCP. CBROM versions 2.07 and 2.08 are not universal even if on the original BP-site these are recommended! There's also CBROM6 for Award core 6.00 BIOSes as CBROM works on Award core 4.5x(P)G only. AMIBCP also has different versions which are compatible with different AMI BIOSes depending on the year they've been released. So, trying different versions of AMIBCP with BP 6.00 alpha 15 and different versions of CBROM with different BP versions sometimes may help. And there's also cases with factory heavily modified BIOSes - no version of BP will work on these.

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Reply 63 of 64, by TechieDude

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analog_programmer wrote on Yesterday, 04:58:

Are you just trolling me or what?

I'm always trying /L switch with BP 6.00 as it costs me nothing and it never worked on Award/Phoenix BIOSes! And that's why I came with the patched version of BP 6.00 alpha 15. If you think it's 'broken" - I'm not gonna convince you, that it is not as you obviously have some weird view of things, especially the things you've only read about, but never tried or even understood.

You weren't clear on that, and it's not my fault if you never bothered to post those results

analog_programmer wrote on Yesterday, 04:58:
Dude... this is entirely different problem and has nothing to do with the freakin' /L switch! And thinking nowadays became such […]
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Dude... this is entirely different problem and has nothing to do with the freakin' /L switch! And thinking nowadays became such a luxury.

BIOS Patcher 6.00 is an alpha version and it was not made by "apple_rom" (the original BP author), so probably BP 6.00 is less compatible than BP 4.xx versions.

And all of the BP versions depend on external programs like CBROM and AMIBCP. CBROM versions 2.07 and 2.08 are not universal even if on the original BP-site these are recommended! There's also CBROM6 for Award core 6.00 BIOSes as CBROM works on Award core 4.5x(P)G only. AMIBCP also has different versions which are compatible with different AMI BIOSes depending on the year they've been released. So, trying different versions of AMIBCP with BP 6.00 alpha 15 and different versions of CBROM with different BP versions sometimes may help. And there's also cases with factory heavily modified BIOSes - no version of BP will work on these.

EOT.

I didn't say it was because of the lack of /L switch, just that this is where I WOULD have liked it... Is reading comprehension (or manners) illegal or something??
I know about CBROM and AMIBCP, but I haven't encountered this issue so far, save for some early Award 4.50 BIOSes so far for some 486 board (I basically wanted to have larger HDD support, not so much for the capacity, but just to have an HDD in the first place, since sub-20GB HDDs are either rare, or dead most of the time where I find them), and I'm not even sure an older version would work either. I've used multiple bpxx.exe executables on the same directory, with the same exact CBROM, mind you, and in my case, it really was BIOS Patcher itself. To be precise, BIOS Patcher 4.23 worked, while 4.51 AND 6.00Alpha15 failed WITH THE SAME EXACT CBROM. Is that clear now?? The other versions complained about not having enough space in the ROM.
As for heavily modified BIOSes not working with any version of BP, I know that, too.

B24Fox wrote on 2025-09-17, 22:19:

There are a lot more boards that unfortunately don't get along with BP 6.00A15
mine included: Re: "Bios Patcher" questions

Hmm, how about we make a list or something?

Reply 64 of 64, by Boohyaka

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As an external reader with no beef in this game, you did post a pretty condescending message basically assuming that people did not know about a well documented flag. Next time maybe ask first if people know about it and what's the problem with it if any. My 2 cents from a neutral pov. Cheers