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First post, by Jccwu

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Hello everyone. I am looking for any information and drivers for the sound card.
I will be grateful for any help.

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Reply 1 of 19, by SuperDeadite

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PnP ready Opti chip, the Unisound driver should be fine.

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Reply 3 of 19, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Jccwu wrote on 2025-09-16, 12:40:

Hello everyone. I am looking for any information and drivers for the sound card.
I will be grateful for any help.

Card specs... https://web.archive.org/web/19990501204252/ht … 0/pnpscsi2.html

Listed drivers haven't been archived, and can't find elsewhere atm... https://web.archive.org/web/19990219114243/ht … 0/software.html

Reply 4 of 19, by dionb

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SuperDeadite wrote on 2025-09-16, 13:00:

PnP ready Opti chip, the Unisound driver should be fine.

No, the 928 (=MAD16) isn't supported, just the 924/925 in PnP mode and 930 onwards.

There are drivers & init tools for it here. But which OS are we talking about here?

If you want to use SCSI, you need to get Future Domain drivers for the controller. The empty sockets look like a boot ROM socket for SCSI and a supporting bus decoder 74-logic chip.

That Crystal chip is interesting. I'm pulling blanks on any searches for "21-01418" or "ATS 620Z84"- but take a look at the traces on the PCB. It almost looks like nothing is connecting to it and it's just stuck on there for show...

Reply 5 of 19, by Thermalwrong

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dionb wrote on 2025-09-22, 18:19:
No, the 928 (=MAD16) isn't supported, just the 924/925 in PnP mode and 930 onwards. […]
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SuperDeadite wrote on 2025-09-16, 13:00:

PnP ready Opti chip, the Unisound driver should be fine.

No, the 928 (=MAD16) isn't supported, just the 924/925 in PnP mode and 930 onwards.

There are drivers & init tools for it here. But which OS are we talking about here?

If you want to use SCSI, you need to get Future Domain drivers for the controller. The empty sockets look like a boot ROM socket for SCSI and a supporting bus decoder 74-logic chip.

That Crystal chip is interesting. I'm pulling blanks on any searches for "21-01418" or "ATS 620Z84"- but take a look at the traces on the PCB. It almost looks like nothing is connecting to it and it's just stuck on there for show...

It's a weird one! See this thread which has the box art for it on a related card, apparently it's a PnP controller: Crystalizer TidalWave32 PnP - US made ISA PnP sound card with Samsung KS0161q/KS0171-2M + SIMMS, Yamaha OPL3, etc
Makes some sense since the litte 8-leg serial EEPROM is located right by it and you wouldn't have that EEPROM on a non-PnP card.

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2025-09-16, 17:23:
Jccwu wrote on 2025-09-16, 12:40:

Hello everyone. I am looking for any information and drivers for the sound card.
I will be grateful for any help.

Card specs... https://web.archive.org/web/19990501204252/ht … 0/pnpscsi2.html

Listed drivers haven't been archived, and can't find elsewhere atm... https://web.archive.org/web/19990219114243/ht … 0/software.html

Looks like all the specs and chips match up, I think Crystal Computer Corp weren't around long and weren't very big (check out the typos in the specs section) so finding drivers might be a hassle if it requires special software to initialise. Very awkward also that they chose a name so similar to crystal semiconductor, makes searching for drivers much harder.

edit: best chance for drivers would be contacting MN Moody or DW12, I think the company was defunct before they ever released drivers on the web and they don't seem to have been archived yet. But maybe even that wouldn't work, the soundchip is different.

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Reply 6 of 19, by dionb

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:05:

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It's a weird one! See this thread which has the box art for it on a related card, apparently it's a PnP controller: Crystalizer TidalWave32 PnP - US made ISA PnP sound card with Samsung KS0161q/KS0171-2M + SIMMS, Yamaha OPL3, etc
Makes some sense since the litte 8-leg serial EEPROM is located right by it and you wouldn't have that EEPROM on a non-PnP card.

You sure that is the same chip? It has the "620" and "84" (maybe a Zilog Z84 microcontroller?) but otherwise looks rather differently connected (i.e. not directly to the ISA bus). Same 8-leg EEPROM though, so sort of makes sense. If so, this could be a real challenge in terms of driver/init.

Reply 7 of 19, by Thermalwrong

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dionb wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:25:
Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:05:

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It's a weird one! See this thread which has the box art for it on a related card, apparently it's a PnP controller: Crystalizer TidalWave32 PnP - US made ISA PnP sound card with Samsung KS0161q/KS0171-2M + SIMMS, Yamaha OPL3, etc
Makes some sense since the litte 8-leg serial EEPROM is located right by it and you wouldn't have that EEPROM on a non-PnP card.

You sure that is the same chip? It has the "620" and "84" (maybe a Zilog Z84 microcontroller?) but otherwise looks rather differently connected (i.e. not directly to the ISA bus). Same 8-leg EEPROM though, so sort of makes sense. If so, this could be a real challenge in terms of driver/init.

Kind of guess work on my part 😀 I know the 82C928 is not a PnP chip and from what I recall also is not really compatible with Windows 95 particularly, so advertising it as a PnP card suggests to me that the Crystal chip is doing the interfacing. Along with that EEPROM being close to it.

We haven't seen the back of the card and that socket is possibly a through hole type rather than an SMD one so it's possible that the signal routing is done around the back of the card.

Reply 8 of 19, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:39:
dionb wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:25:
Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-09-23, 21:05:

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It's a weird one! See this thread which has the box art for it on a related card, apparently it's a PnP controller: Crystalizer TidalWave32 PnP - US made ISA PnP sound card with Samsung KS0161q/KS0171-2M + SIMMS, Yamaha OPL3, etc
Makes some sense since the litte 8-leg serial EEPROM is located right by it and you wouldn't have that EEPROM on a non-PnP card.

You sure that is the same chip? It has the "620" and "84" (maybe a Zilog Z84 microcontroller?) but otherwise looks rather differently connected (i.e. not directly to the ISA bus). Same 8-leg EEPROM though, so sort of makes sense. If so, this could be a real challenge in terms of driver/init.

Kind of guess work on my part 😀 I know the 82C928 is not a PnP chip and from what I recall also is not really compatible with Windows 95 particularly, so advertising it as a PnP card suggests to me that the Crystal chip is doing the interfacing. Along with that EEPROM being close to it.

We haven't seen the back of the card and that socket is possibly a through hole type rather than an SMD one so it's possible that the signal routing is done around the back of the card.

They describe that chip on the spec sheet as "Crystal Computer CC3000 Custom Plug and Play ASIC " so maybe the chip on the other card serves a similar function.

Reply 9 of 19, by JidaiGeki

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Try these.
Sound Impression disk was corrupted, so have attached a different version from Vetusware (May '94 instead of Jan '94)

Reply 10 of 19, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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JidaiGeki wrote on 2025-10-05, 09:17:

Try these.
Sound Impression disk was corrupted, so have attached a different version from Vetusware (May '94 instead of Jan '94)

Excellent!...did you source the two-part driver set from your own disks, or elsewhere.

Reply 11 of 19, by JidaiGeki

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2025-10-05, 10:24:
JidaiGeki wrote on 2025-10-05, 09:17:

Try these.
Sound Impression disk was corrupted, so have attached a different version from Vetusware (May '94 instead of Jan '94)

Excellent!...did you source the two-part driver set from your own disks, or elsewhere.

They're from a boxed card in my collection, picked it up earlier this year - just after the SCSI version I had my eye on sold. Figured it was worth getting the disks too.

Should also point out for jjcwu that the Future Domain driver is included, the disks' labels suggest they are for all versions of the PnP card.

Reply 12 of 19, by Jccwu

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Thank you very much, I'll try it today

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Reply 13 of 19, by Jccwu

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So, I installed the drivers, and unfortunately, the card wasn't detected. The initializer says the card isn't detected. The ICU driver in Windows sees the unknown card as present in the resources. There are no drivers for Windows, only some music program.
I also have three more sound cards with MAD16 or 82C928 chips, and I can't get any of them to work.
For example, the Turtle Beach Monte Carlo sound card—the Crystalizer drivers detect it, but there's no sound.
The Sound Machine sound card with the 82C928 chip—the drivers don't detect it.
The MediaMagic 16 sound card—the drivers detect it, but there's a faint, quiet sound from one channel.
For me, the 82C928 chip is some kind of demon.

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Reply 15 of 19, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Jccwu wrote on 2025-10-05, 18:13:
So, I installed the drivers, and unfortunately, the card wasn't detected. The initializer says the card isn't detected. The ICU […]
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So, I installed the drivers, and unfortunately, the card wasn't detected. The initializer says the card isn't detected. The ICU driver in Windows sees the unknown card as present in the resources. There are no drivers for Windows, only some music program.
I also have three more sound cards with MAD16 or 82C928 chips, and I can't get any of them to work.
For example, the Turtle Beach Monte Carlo sound card—the Crystalizer drivers detect it, but there's no sound.
The Sound Machine sound card with the 82C928 chip—the drivers don't detect it.
The MediaMagic 16 sound card—the drivers detect it, but there's a faint, quiet sound from one channel.
For me, the 82C928 chip is some kind of demon.

Shame about the Crystalizer card 🙁 ...as dionb said earlier, the empty sockets on the card give it incomplete look which may explain why the drivers (they certainly look like the correct ones) don't work. Also not sure I'd expect them to work with your other cards.

Far as the QuickShot SOUND MACHINE goes, these appear to be the correct drivers (assuming you haven't already tried them)...

The attachment qs823drv.exe is no longer available

Reply 16 of 19, by Jccwu

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The box with this card shows the card with empty slots, so it's unlikely to need chips in them.
Thanks for the QS driver, I'll give it a try.

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Reply 17 of 19, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Jccwu wrote on 2025-10-05, 18:16:

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Can only assume that there's a different driver set for cards, like yours, based on the Analog Devices AD1845 rather than the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 that these drivers seem designed to support. It's likely that the missing pnpsc.zip set linked on IA had both.

Reply 18 of 19, by JidaiGeki

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on Yesterday, 11:58:
Jccwu wrote on 2025-10-05, 18:16:

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Can only assume that there's a different driver set for cards, like yours, based on the Analog Devices AD1845 rather than the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 that these drivers seem designed to support. It's likely that the missing pnpsc.zip set linked on IA had both.

The box and manual both state that the card might come with a Crystal *or* AD chip - so presuming the one set of drivers covers both. The card that the disks came with also has the AD chip. I'll check when I can get a system setup, and post pics too.

jcc, what's your motherboard/general setup like?

Reply 19 of 19, by Jccwu

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JidaiGeki wrote on Yesterday, 15:24:
PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on Yesterday, 11:58:
Jccwu wrote on 2025-10-05, 18:16:

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Can only assume that there's a different driver set for cards, like yours, based on the Analog Devices AD1845 rather than the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 that these drivers seem designed to support. It's likely that the missing pnpsc.zip set linked on IA had both.

The box and manual both state that the card might come with a Crystal *or* AD chip - so presuming the one set of drivers covers both. The card that the disks came with also has the AD chip. I'll check when I can get a system setup, and post pics too.

jcc, what's your motherboard/general setup like?

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