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Creative Labs Introduces The Next-Gen Sound Blaster!

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Reply 100 of 106, by butjer1010

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darry wrote on Yesterday, 12:44:
butjer1010 wrote on Yesterday, 07:25:

I think there is some kind of possibly language-related misunderstanding going on here. Not praising a company up and down is not the same as being hateful, and stating facts is not the same as being hateful. The details of the Aureal lawsuit and Creative's anti-competitive buying out of every sound card innovator until the market was destroyed is all public knowledge and easy to find online.

If more than 90% of comments are negative, it seems to me that this is hateful.... maybe i'm wrong, but this is not the first forum or first thread i can see that hate towards everything! That's why i commented this. Maybe really word hateful in my language means something else than on English, but i doubt.
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Just to be clear, there are, IMHO at least a few nuances here.

a) Some people have negative feelings about Creative. Either they dislike the company for various reasons and possibly even wish it to fail. I do not feel this way about Creative despite understanding the reasons shared by others.

b) Some people have negative feelings about this new product's marketing campaign because it is full of mostly hype and buzzwords AND never makes it clear concretely what problems it is trying to solve or what needs said product might fulfill. I, for one do not have any idea what this product might be able to actually do for (or not) me based on that marketing campaign. As a consequence I do have a negative view of the marketing campaign specifically.

c) Some people might already have a negative view of the actual product. I personally feel that there simply is not enough to go on for that. This might end up a very good product that people (possibly even myself included) actually find useful and, hopefully for Creative, the product will sell well. However, as I have previously stated, there is currently too little actual information for me to be interested, especially in the context that I do not feel I am missing anything in particular in my retro experience and the marketing is not being very convincing, IMHO (see point b). In other words, I DO NOT have a negative view of the product and, in fact, do not have ANY view of the product because it's use cases are unclear at this point.

To be clear, I do not feel that I have an arguably negative view of anything except the marketing campaign (point b) AND the fact that I am skeptical about there being a potential use case, for me specifically at least, for any retro themed product that likely targets a wide audience (as Creative or any other relatively large company would likely want to do). I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I agree some people here truly dislike (hate) Creative. However, he fact that this product announcement does not generate enthusiasm, while being arguably classifiable as a "negative" reaction, does not necessarily imply any "hate", IMHO.
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Nicely said, i totally understand Your point of view.
I was just surprised (again and again) how many people are negative these days towards everything (in this case Creative). As i mentioned, this is not the only forum i could read such comments... But i'm glad that there are nice people like You, who can discus in such nice manner (unlike this kid "living" up there).

Reply 101 of 106, by Living

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butjer1010 wrote on Yesterday, 16:14:
Living wrote on Yesterday, 11:49:
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butjer1010 wrote on Yesterday, 07:25:

If more than 90% of comments are negative, it seems to me that this is hateful.... maybe i'm wrong, but this is not the first forum or first thread i can see that hate towards everything! That's why i commented this. Maybe really word hateful in my language means something else than on English, but i doubt.

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if you are gonna feel and comment like a californian crystal gen dude, then you are on the wrong place.

like what you want, but corpos are not your friend.

If You think i would cry because of Your emotions towards someone or something, then You're on wrong place! You should go at least to school again. You don't understand simple sentences i wrote up there....

do i need to explain that meme?, are you 15 or what?. Lets try with another one:

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this is you

dont quote this, im not wasting any more time on you

Reply 102 of 106, by UCyborg

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I bought two Creative sound cards in recent times, mostly out of curiosity. Other than that, I think only the first computer (Pentium 133 MHz) I had at home had a Sound Blaster, but I'm not sure, I'd have to dig for documentation if it's still around. Did they come with FM tuner back then?

The marketing for this new product is just silly. Do they expect people with at least half of working brain will take them seriously?

Creative or no Creative, the world is a horrible place. If there wasn't Creative, there'd be some other company.

Who knows, if people were like me in general, most companies may actually go bankrupt because they'd hardly sell anything. The system is broken.

Arthur Schopenhauer wrote:

A man can be himself only so long as he is alone; and if he does not love solitude, he will not love freedom; for it is only when he is alone that he is really free.

Reply 103 of 106, by ratfink

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Some of this thread feels like I'm watching trolls feeding each other.

What I would say is that I bought the Xfi-MB3 software but that's now f*cked because my PC crapped itself and I cannot re-register it on a different PC (or evne download it afaik). That leaves a bad taste about Creative for me, at the moment.

Reply 104 of 106, by Shponglefan

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I've been re-reading this sentence trying to make sense of it:

Missing the magic of classic PC gaming? Relive it with built-in DOS sound and games

Are they saying that this device has build-in DOS sound that can be used with DOS games? Or are they saying that it has built-in DOS games themselves?

Whatever marketing hype they are trying to generate is not worded the best...

Pentium 4 Multi-OS Build
486 DX4-100 with 6 sound cards
486 DX-33 with 5 sound cards

Reply 105 of 106, by butjer1010

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Living wrote on Yesterday, 16:28:
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butjer1010 wrote on Yesterday, 16:14:
Living wrote on Yesterday, 11:49:
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if you are gonna feel and comment like a californian crystal gen dude, then you are on the wrong place.

like what you want, but corpos are not your friend.

If You think i would cry because of Your emotions towards someone or something, then You're on wrong place! You should go at least to school again. You don't understand simple sentences i wrote up there....

do i need to explain that meme?, are you 15 or what?. Lets try with another one:

ece.jpg

this is you

dont quote this, im not wasting any more time on you

If i had IQ like You, i would write the same. Fortunately, i don't. It is sad when someone who thinks he's smart, couldn't understand simple sentences (You're the smart one i mentioned in first posts, the one who knows everything from the Earth beginnings) ... Lucky for me, You're not wasting any more time on me, lucky me!!!

Reply 106 of 106, by chinny22

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darry wrote on Yesterday, 12:44:
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Just to be clear, there are, IMHO at least a few nuances here.

a) Some people have negative feelings about Creative. Either they dislike the company for various reasons and possibly even wish it to fail. I do not feel this way about Creative despite understanding the reasons shared by others.

b) Some people have negative feelings about this new product's marketing campaign because it is full of mostly hype and buzzwords AND never makes it clear concretely what problems it is trying to solve or what needs said product might fulfill. I, for one do not have any idea what this product might be able to actually do for (or not) me based on that marketing campaign. As a consequence I do have a negative view of the marketing campaign specifically.

c) Some people might already have a negative view of the actual product. I personally feel that there simply is not enough to go on for that. This might end up a very good product that people (possibly even myself included) actually find useful and, hopefully for Creative, the product will sell well. However, as I have previously stated, there is currently too little actual information for me to be interested, especially in the context that I do not feel I am missing anything in particular in my retro experience and the marketing is not being very convincing, IMHO (see point b). In other words, I DO NOT have a negative view of the product and, in fact, do not have ANY view of the product because it's use cases are unclear at this point.

Very well written, much better then I could have done.

I would say I'm
95% point B
5% point A
2% point C (as in I doubt I'll actually have a use for it)

... I'm also not very good at Maths 😉