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First post, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Just got this pretty damn nice Octek 430HX machine. There was one computer shop here in southern Finland which imported and sold Octek based systems. When I was getting my Pentium machine in autumn 1995, it was close that I didn't get a computer from there, but ended up buying it through my father's workplace. This system is without a doubt bought from this very same store in 1996, as I don't know any other store selling Octek systems specifically.

What makes this clone interesting is that so much of its parts can be traced back due to its origins. I already also dug up few reviews from local computer mags which have practically the same computer, with some options such as different CPU, graphics card or sound card having been reviewed during 1996.

The case is pretty neat looking with those led strips. I looked up old Octek site and it is Octek D60 series case. It has both that mid 90s look, but also somehow a bit more modern feeling. It stands out from many baby AT cases of the era and one of the reviews also noticed this. Some cases from the era have very flimsy chassis, but this is definitely one of the more well built ones. It has removable mb tray which is extremely good feature.

Case is overall in good condition, metal has just few scratches on top and one side and front panel is yellowed (next summer it will get some retrobright treatment):

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Insides are pretty unremarkable. It has P120 CPU, 48 MB EDO (clearly 16MB originally, 32MB added later), Seagate HDD around 1.2GB and, S3Trio64, some PCI SCSI controller with external connector and underwhelming CT4180 (I have buttload of CT4170 and 4180 cards just sitting in my bin forever). CDROM drive is 4x Sanyo FX410A and I consider those to be of good quality:

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Graphics card is indeed very typical for the era, but it is at least Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (S3Trio64) with full memory. I find Diamond cards generally of decent quality and I'm always glad to have one instead of some no-name bulk card:

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And here is the motherboard, Octek Rhino 9 Ver 1.4.:

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I have one other Octek MB before this, orginal Jaguar 386 and I find it high quality. It has SiS "Rabbit" chipset with 64kB L2 and it is pretty much from the high point of 386s in 1990 until 386 started to become more like a budget offering under 486. It is fast and well built mobo. It has zero Varta damage as it only uses external battery, which makes it almost a rare breed among 386 motherboards of the same era.

And my plans for the system are as follows: I already swapped the CPU for 200MMX to give it a bit more oomph. I will most likely give it Mystique 220 as I don't require the best DOS compatibilty (I have plenty of systems for that). But, Mystique has fast 2D, has a good image quality and I want to test few of those MSI games out. I have one extra Voodoo 1 in my bin and this will have that one too. For sound I'm most likely going to go with AWE64 CT4520 with SIMCONN Revival, although I have some other options too, so we'll see.

I already flashed the latest Unicore BIOS to this which should give this board 128GB HDD limit and compatiblity with pretty much any S7 CPU. So, I will probably install around 120GB SSD in this. CPU voltages can be adjusted down to 2.5V, so K6-2 might be little iffy with this, but so does probably the voltage regulator. I was about to swap the heatsink for much larger one, but those are absolutely pain to remove. I didn't want to blast hot air with all those caps around the regulator, so I probably just settle with this CPU which is also specced for the board. Anyways, I have SS7 ATX mobo to go with and faster win9x boxes, so I really don't need more power. Recent years I have focused more on period or close to period correct builds in any case as I find them more interesting. When you have enough of systems overlapping each other, you really don't need to squeeze them and you can take every system just as they comfortably can go.

I will probably post some of my shenanigans and tests with the system. Next it needs little bit cleaning and getting all the new parts installed, but what I posted above is pretty much what it will most likely turn out to be: A high end Pentium MMX gaming rig from around 1997.

Reply 1 of 11, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Reply 3 of 11, by Intel486dx33

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I have some of these motherboards in my garage. I dont think I ever used them.
Not sure if they work.

But that First Gen Pentium is a Legend.
This CPU Conquered all the UNIX computers with the MIPS CPU and put them out of Business
The Pentium computer was less expensive to build, more reliable, and faster.

The UNIX computers could support more RAM and Faster I/O but the PC caught up.

This was the battle going on in the 1990s ( PC vs Mac vs UNIX )

I Liked all of these computers.
They have their place in the computer network.

Reply 4 of 11, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2025-10-11, 16:32:
I have some of these motherboards in my garage. I dont think I ever used them. Not sure if they work. […]
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I have some of these motherboards in my garage. I dont think I ever used them.
Not sure if they work.

But that First Gen Pentium is a Legend.
This CPU Conquered all the UNIX computers with the MIPS CPU and put them out of Business
The Pentium computer was less expensive to build, more reliable, and faster.

The UNIX computers could support more RAM and Faster I/O but the PC caught up.

This was the battle going on in the 1990s ( PC vs Mac vs UNIX )

I Liked all of these computers.
They have their place in the computer network.

True. I have one Intel "Zappa" 430FX box running with 120MHz Pentium, Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3 968) and AWE32. That system resembles the Pentium I got in autumn of 1995 and it was part of the wave that really made Pentium mainstream with the release of Win95 and decreasing prices.

It had Zappa (like countless of Pentiums sold during that year) and I got the system with 90MHz CPU, which I pretty soon OCd to 120MHz. I could actually transform that box to what I had back then. I still have the CPU, Diamond S3 868 and sound card CT2290 SB16 from that system left, although rest of the stuff got recycled in early 2000s. I haven't tested the CPU, but rest of the stuff works and that SB16 has been humming in my Presario 425 for years and years now after being in cold storage for years during the 15-20 years it was in my obsolete parts stash.

That Pentium with Win95 really felt like a start of a new era back then. Although I must admit that for a long time I partly hated Win9x a lot and missed the simplicity and robustness that comes with it of DOS. I felt like Win95 (and 98) hid information from user which made it difficult to troubleshoot and repair the OS and registry was like an invention from hell.

Reply 5 of 11, by Intel486dx33

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The Pentium 133 and 200mmx were popular CPUs amoung computer builders back in 1990s
For budget gamers the AMD K6-II and K6-lll were popular CPUs.

For EASY setup and Reliability go for Intel Pentium

For Gaming and 3D Now with MMX support get the AMD K6
It’s a little harder to set up but it works.

For AMD K6 I do this.

1) Install Win98se
2) install all your hardware drivers
3) install only core updates from SP3
4) install Directx from SP3 package

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Reply 7 of 11, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Bruno128 wrote on 2025-10-11, 23:32:

Turbo button functionality?

Nope, MB doesn’t have turbo switch header. I haven’t tested it yet, but it most likely has turbo functionality through keyboard (ctrl, alt, +/-). This is what my Jaguar 386 also has, although it also has a header for physical switch.

Reply 8 of 11, by chinny22

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The local computer shop in my Hometown Australia also sold Octek and was what my best friend had.
It was 1995 and we had just purchased a complete 486 DX2 66, with 420MB HDD and 2x CD-ROM system from somewhere else.
Not long after they upgraded their Octek 386 to a 486 DX4 100, 500MB HDD, 4x-CD-ROM, As that's how fast hardware was outdated back then!
Don't really remember the case but the badge always reminded me of Batman 😀

His system always felt a bit budget. with our PC having VLB with high speed UART (important for our external modems) which his did not.
Wasn't till joining up here decades later that I found out it was such a large company with pretty good reputation.

Both of were stuck with our 486's for next 5 years so missed out most of the Pentium era hardware. It's one of the more exciting with the change from dos to windows and so many different 3d standards to play with.

Reply 9 of 11, by CharlieFoxtrot

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chinny22 wrote on 2025-10-13, 01:23:
The local computer shop in my Hometown Australia also sold Octek and was what my best friend had. It was 1995 and we had just pu […]
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The local computer shop in my Hometown Australia also sold Octek and was what my best friend had.
It was 1995 and we had just purchased a complete 486 DX2 66, with 420MB HDD and 2x CD-ROM system from somewhere else.
Not long after they upgraded their Octek 386 to a 486 DX4 100, 500MB HDD, 4x-CD-ROM, As that's how fast hardware was outdated back then!
Don't really remember the case but the badge always reminded me of Batman 😀

His system always felt a bit budget. with our PC having VLB with high speed UART (important for our external modems) which his did not.
Wasn't till joining up here decades later that I found out it was such a large company with pretty good reputation.

Both of were stuck with our 486's for next 5 years so missed out most of the Pentium era hardware. It's one of the more exciting with the change from dos to windows and so many different 3d standards to play with.

Holy hell, didn’t think about Batman before, but now I can’t unsee it anymore 😄

I agree that although Octek isn’t that widely known at least anymore, they were pretty significant player at some point. They didn’t just make motherboards, but had a wide offering of components and accessories. And their stuff wasn’t definitely bottom of the barrell PCChips stuff. This Rhino 9 for example feels like a solid MB and for example PCB material is good.

But I guess Octek wasn’t still big enough to survive the great consolidation that took place in the early 2000s. I’m not 100% sure, but I think they still made some boards for A64 and P4 and that was it.

I also agree that Pentium era is pretty interesting, although I’m personally still more interested in the HW of actual DOS era.

Reply 10 of 11, by Intel486dx33

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I don’t think I ever seen a working turbo button on the Pentium CPU motherboard.
I see the pin header on the motherboards but never got it to work.

I go in bios and disable cache or use the keyboard hot keys.
Or use a utility like “SetMul” ( Set Multiplier ).