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Reply 40 of 49, by asdf53

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Glad to hear that. It could be a failing chipset on the other board then. Would be interesting to test the Geforce 4 MX from your other thread on this board to see if it still has memory errors.

Reply 41 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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asdf53 wrote on Yesterday, 15:21:

Glad to hear that. It could be a failing chipset on the other board then. Would be interesting to test the Geforce 4 MX from your other thread on this board to see if it still has memory errors.

That's not a bad idea. Apart from that though is there anything else I could test?

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 42 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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Just tested the Geforce 4 with it - same issue. Has broken graphics/lines. Definitely knackered, that.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 43 of 49, by asdf53

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DustyShinigami wrote on Yesterday, 15:29:

That's not a bad idea. Apart from that though is there anything else I could test?

Here are a couple of ideas:

Prime95 to test the CPU and cache (prime95 v21 for win9x), go to Options -> Torture Test

MemTest to test RAM in Windows

Run 3DMark in loop mode for 15-30 minutes to test GPU and Northbridge

For the Southbridge (handles the PCI stuff), can't think of any ready made tools - basically anything that involves lots of data transfer between PCI devices. Maybe enabling DMA mode and copying large files around, for example from USB to hard disk and vice versa, or copy a large zip file from a network drive onto the hard disk, unzip it and see if it complains about errors. That's a typical thing that would happen.

Reply 44 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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asdf53 wrote on Yesterday, 17:15:
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DustyShinigami wrote on Yesterday, 15:29:

That's not a bad idea. Apart from that though is there anything else I could test?

Here are a couple of ideas:

Prime95 to test the CPU and cache (prime95 v21 for win9x), go to Options -> Torture Test

MemTest to test RAM in Windows

Run 3DMark in loop mode for 15-30 minutes to test GPU and Northbridge

For the Southbridge (handles the PCI stuff), can't think of any ready made tools - basically anything that involves lots of data transfer between PCI devices. Maybe enabling DMA mode and copying large files around, for example from USB to hard disk and vice versa, or copy a large zip file from a network drive onto the hard disk, unzip it and see if it complains about errors. That's a typical thing that would happen.

Okay. How long should I let Prime95 run for? I'm not sure what to say about a network drive. Haven't set one up and used one before. I'm always sending files from a USB pen drive though. The last biggest file I copied over was an image of the Sound Blaster's driver CD. It's not given me any issues so far.

Also, so far, it's recognised and installed the drivers for the Geforce 4 Ti 4200. So running 3DMark is definitely a plan. 😀

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 45 of 49, by asdf53

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DustyShinigami wrote on Yesterday, 17:47:

Okay. How long should I let Prime95 run for? I'm not sure what to say about a network drive. Haven't set one up and used one before. I'm always sending files from a USB pen drive though. The last biggest file I copied over was an image of the Sound Blaster's driver CD. It's not given me any issues so far.

Also, so far, it's recognised and installed the drivers for the Geforce 4 Ti 4200. So running 3DMark is definitely a plan. 😀

If no errors after 20 minutes, it should be good. You don't need a network drive, it was just an example of something that involves PCI and is sensitive to corruption. USB should also be good, or even copying the file from one folder to another on the same hard disk. It only needs to be large enough to make errors more likely, several hundred MB would be good. Verification after copying can be done with a tool such as HashMyFiles, and as mentioned, make sure that DMA mode is enabled.

Reply 46 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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asdf53 wrote on Yesterday, 18:12:
DustyShinigami wrote on Yesterday, 17:47:

Okay. How long should I let Prime95 run for? I'm not sure what to say about a network drive. Haven't set one up and used one before. I'm always sending files from a USB pen drive though. The last biggest file I copied over was an image of the Sound Blaster's driver CD. It's not given me any issues so far.

Also, so far, it's recognised and installed the drivers for the Geforce 4 Ti 4200. So running 3DMark is definitely a plan. 😀

If no errors after 20 minutes, it should be good. You don't need a network drive, it was just an example of something that involves PCI and is sensitive to corruption. USB should also be good, or even copying the file from one folder to another on the same hard disk. It only needs to be large enough to make errors more likely, several hundred MB would be good. Verification after copying can be done with a tool such as HashMyFiles, and as mentioned, make sure that DMA mode is enabled.

Awesome. Thank you.

It's currently running through 3DMark 2000 at the moment.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 47 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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Okay, it successfully completed the default 3DMark test, however when I set it up to use higher settings and on a loop, I think it crashed. Not sure if because of the GPU or if it was just a simple application crash. I left it to go through the Video Memory Test under Windows.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 48 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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Well, this is setting off my paranoia. First the crash with 3DMark and now when I came back to see if VMST had finished, the system had hung up. This is something that's happened before - when I come back and try to wake the machine from standby and it doesn't. The monitor light just flashes. It doesn't respond to keyboard or mouse click presses. I think someone did suggest something to disable in the BIOS, but I can't remember what. So I'm running through VMST again.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4

Reply 49 of 49, by DustyShinigami

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Second attempt and it did it again. PC/monitor was in standby and wouldn't come out of it. Had to force it to shutdown. One other thing I've noticed is that it no longer tries to go through ScanDisk. And yet the option to disable it hasn't been enabled.

Going through it a third time but this time with Power options, like Standby etc, disabled and the monitor left on.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
HDD: 30GB - IDE 3; 40GB - IDE 3; 80GB - IDE 4