I haven't had cable tv in a long time but I swear I remember people saying they didn't play music anymore like 10 years ago.

So this is surprising news to me for sure.

Nobody (except for a few mega stars) makes any money with music so the days where studios would spend $100K-1M+ to make a video died with rock and grunge in 2000.

Youtube killed the MTV star.

pete8475 wrote on 2025-10-18, 21:59:

I haven't had cable tv in a long time but I swear I remember people saying they didn't play music anymore like 10 years ago.

Try ten years and more before that. We got NTL cable in 1999 and I remember talking with friends about the shift toward 'reality' programming. VH1 was actually better!

something something Real World jackass Tom Green

Big Pink wrote on 2025-10-18, 23:21:

pete8475 wrote on 2025-10-18, 21:59:

I haven't had cable tv in a long time but I swear I remember people saying they didn't play music anymore like 10 years ago.

Try ten years and more before that. We got NTL cable in 1999 and I remember talking with friends about the shift toward 'reality' programming. VH1 was actually better!

Yep and that's what sparked a series of similar memes

Weird ?
No more iTunes on Mac but on PC now ?
No More VEVO channel on AppleTV ?
VEVO is on Roku ?

The Music industry is being rearranged ?

I remember the en mass switch of programming from mostly music video hours to mostly "reality" TV shows. It was at that point, in the late 90s from what I recall, I kinda stopped watching on a regular basis.
Before that, in the early to mid 90s it was my go to channel, it was always on on my bedroom TV.
I remember the TV in my room was linked to the cable box which was down stairs in the living room, I had to go all the way to the box to change channels, so I put it on MTV and left it like that, it would be playing all night while I was surfing the free dial up internet through the night.

I remember reading old articles from even older bands saying how MTV killed "real" musicians as now physical appetence mattered as much or more than their musical abilities, which is undeniably true.
That said I'm part of the MTV generation and agree it is end of an era even if it lost all relevance along time ago. A fate I think many non-streaming services will share over the next decade or so.

chinny22 wrote on 2025-10-20, 01:02:

I remember reading old articles from even older bands saying how MTV killed "real" musicians as now physical appetence mattered as much or more than their musical abilities, which is undeniably true.
That said I'm part of the MTV generation and agree it is end of an era even if it lost all relevance along time ago. A fate I think many non-streaming services will share over the next decade or so.

About the bands I dont know but about MTV losing relevance quite a long time ago now I would have to grudgingly agree with you.
I dont want that to be the case because it was such a thing in my life for what seemed like an age but yeah we have been avoiding the rotting corpse of it for a long time now.

And yes I also think these big streaming services days are numbered.
It will only take a small shift in tech to make them all irrelevant again.

Don't be sad, where I live we once had VIVA which went down the hill, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIVA_Germany

Jo22 wrote on 2025-10-21, 18:09:

Don't be sad, where I live we once had VIVA which went down the hill, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIVA_Germany

VIVA was like the cooler, edgier MTV.

I remember when they were airing some heavier anime shows during nighttime. That was where I first saw Hellsing and X-1999. I think MTV2 started doing something similar soon after. Still better than reality TV, at least in my view.

If anything is the end of music, it's Spotify who pushes it's own AI generated music onto its subscribers over musicians, not shutting down some TV channels nobody watched anymore anyway.

chinny22 wrote on 2025-10-20, 01:02:

That said I'm part of the MTV generation and agree it is end of an era even if it lost all relevance along time ago. A fate I think many non-streaming services will share over the next decade or so.

Broadcast TV is working with Google to encrypt all broadcasts via the ATSC 3 standard, this will effectively scramble video feeds whether over the air or online similar to how Netflix protects its assets from simulcast on piracy sites.

Considering most streamers are on the edge of bankruptcy I suspect we will continue seeing streamers merge back together into a cable like entity with less choice and higher costs.

rmay635703 wrote on 2025-10-21, 19:47:

Considering most streamers are on the edge of bankruptcy I suspect we will continue seeing streamers merge back together into a cable like entity with less choice and higher costs.

I assume you mean streaming companies? What streaming companies are on the verge of bankruptcy?

Not sure if its sign of (me) aging, but those days, I felt we had more varieties and different unique genres - pop, rock, heavy metal, ballads, etc.

Nowadays, I feel almost every song is similar and almost 95% are boring. Maybe its just me.

70's had a unique style and 80's music had a unique style. My favorite 2 decades of music. Maybe I grew up with them.... but I swear I can't enjoy current songs. However, music wise, for current age, I seem to like those chill out/lounge music on YT.

I loved the different MTV logos across the different programs they used to play.

Malik wrote on 2025-10-23, 08:43:

Not sure if its sign of (me) aging, but those days, I felt we had more varieties and different unique genres - pop, rock, heavy […]
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Not sure if its sign of (me) aging, but those days, I felt we had more varieties and different unique genres - pop, rock, heavy metal, ballads, etc.

Nowadays, I feel almost every song is similar and almost 95% are boring. Maybe its just me.

70's had a unique style and 80's music had a unique style. My favorite 2 decades of music. Maybe I grew up with them.... but I swear I can't enjoy current songs. However, music wise, for current age, I seem to like those chill out/lounge music on YT.

I loved the different MTV logos across the different programs they used to play.

I remember watching an interesting youtube video a few years ago about why music sounds the same.
They analysed music and 60's and earlier had the most difference in key, tempo, etc, etc.
Then during the late 60's the variation in music steadily declined decade after decade, bit part of this was the music itself but was also recording methods.
As the industry shifted from simply recording a song "live" in a studio to recording separate tracks, to more sampled or recording a bit of music and simply looping it.
Then in the last 10 years or so technology to take out the small imperfections like like autotune or beatmatch.

I find it hard to listen to current mainstream music like the radio. One reason I think is it seams rock "style" is dead? In the past even pop, ballad, grunge, etc had a bit of rock influence which seems to be all but gone now?
It also meant I could appreciate my parents generation of music, eg Beetles/ Rolling Stones as it shared common traits, say Pearl Jam.

While in the UK I enjoyed Absolute Radio and Radio X, alot of their playlist is 90's (my era) but would also included newer bands that play similar styles of music. It's just that where as 20 years ago that would be mainstream they are now only played on "specialised?" stations.

But I'm also old and teens are never allowed to like the same music as their parents. I guess a big shift was enviable just as I know my parents had with my grandparents who grew up on 50's and earlier "big band" music and really did not like this "rock" stuff that was starting to become popular

I wonder if it's just a lack of effort on my part these days - I used to go looking for new music and try different genres. These days I can't be bothered trying to find the diamonds in the rough but I suspect that there's still a lot of great new music out there, it's just not making it to mainstream radio, etc.

My kids have been listening to these chicks for example - great stuff I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpgJjdk52c

Clever lyrics, great hook - I could imagine this coming out in the 90's but it's only a couple of years old.

badmojo wrote on 2025-10-24, 06:51:

I wonder if it's just a lack of effort on my part these days - I used to go looking for new music and try different genres. Thes […]
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I wonder if it's just a lack of effort on my part these days - I used to go looking for new music and try different genres. These days I can't be bothered trying to find the diamonds in the rough but I suspect that there's still a lot of great new music out there, it's just not making it to mainstream radio, etc.

My kids have been listening to these chicks for example - great stuff I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpgJjdk52c

Clever lyrics, great hook - I could imagine this coming out in the 90's but it's only a couple of years old.

Funny enough WetLeg get a lot of airplay on RadioX which is how I found them, and looking at the comments a lot of the 40+ crowd say the same thing along the line of "sounds like music I'd of listened to"

I wish Australia had radio stations aimed at generations of people rather then a locked period of music.
Radio X for example plays music to the 90's generation. So a lot of 90's music like Oasis, Foo Fighters, etc but also new realises from 90's bands, as well as totally new bands in similar style, eg Wet Leg.
I'm finding Radio stations I like in Australia are more the golden oldies station that plays music from say the 70's, 80s, 90's but nothing new so I'm somewhat stuck in time so no chance of coming across those diamonds in the rough.