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First post, by The One Demon

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Just wondering if you think it's worth getting a 15kHz monitor? I'm not really sure when games started running 31kHz plus though....

I could get a Commodore 1084S-P1 for $350 AUD (plus postage via courier), has scratched up rear plastics, but he's replaced the flyback and HOT.

I have a couple CRT TVs and a 31kHz+ CRT monitor that can go up to like 2048x1536. (IBM P275 I think. In fancy black 🤣)

I was trying to find any multisync monitors so I can get 15kHz to 31kHz+, but there doesn't really seem to be anything in Australia.

Thanks!

Reply 1 of 8, by jmarsh

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Not worth it when you can get a GBS 8200 scaler for $30.

Reply 2 of 8, by maxtherabbit

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Yes it's worth getting one, but not at that price

Reply 3 of 8, by mkarcher

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If you can get a TV with SCART input, you have a 15kHz analog RGB monitor. With some simple adaption circuit, CGA can be translated to SCART analog level without scan conversion.

Reply 4 of 8, by The One Demon

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mkarcher wrote on Yesterday, 17:13:

If you can get a TV with SCART input, you have a 15kHz analog RGB monitor. With some simple adaption circuit, CGA can be translated to SCART analog level without scan conversion.

I've never seen a SCART TV for sale in Australia. Maybe they were sold here, but if they were I think they're very rare these days.

Reply 5 of 8, by dionb

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mkarcher wrote on Yesterday, 17:13:

If you can get a TV with SCART input, you have a 15kHz analog RGB monitor. With some simple adaption circuit, CGA can be translated to SCART analog level without scan conversion.

Be careful - not all SCART devices support RGB. SCART is purely a connector standard, not a signal (or indeed signal level) standard.

SCART can support composite and S-Video *or* RGB (using the same pins, hence mutually exclusive), and some do neither.

OP, might help if you share with us what you want to hook up to this monitor. "15kHz" could be anything from IBM CGA (or low-res EGA) to some kind of arcade machine board. Options might differ depending on what it is.

Reply 6 of 8, by SScorpio

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What are your goals for using the monitor?

Light pens and lightguns won't work if you use a scan convertor. But for normal gaming, the sharper image of a VGA monitor might be more appealing. A normal VGA monitor can have the image quality of an expensive PVM/BVM display.

Or are you running an old video signal that made use of composite blending to display additional colors?

Reply 7 of 8, by rmay635703

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Many tvs can be converted to rgb via the jungle chip.

It doesnt take much to make ttl/cga into analog

Reply 8 of 8, by The One Demon

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dionb wrote on Today, 11:51:
Be careful - not all SCART devices support RGB. SCART is purely a connector standard, not a signal (or indeed signal level) stan […]
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mkarcher wrote on Yesterday, 17:13:

If you can get a TV with SCART input, you have a 15kHz analog RGB monitor. With some simple adaption circuit, CGA can be translated to SCART analog level without scan conversion.

Be careful - not all SCART devices support RGB. SCART is purely a connector standard, not a signal (or indeed signal level) standard.

SCART can support composite and S-Video *or* RGB (using the same pins, hence mutually exclusive), and some do neither.

OP, might help if you share with us what you want to hook up to this monitor. "15kHz" could be anything from IBM CGA (or low-res EGA) to some kind of arcade machine board. Options might differ depending on what it is.

SScorpio wrote on Today, 12:04:

What are your goals for using the monitor?

Light pens and lightguns won't work if you use a scan convertor. But for normal gaming, the sharper image of a VGA monitor might be more appealing. A normal VGA monitor can have the image quality of an expensive PVM/BVM display.

Or are you running an old video signal that made use of composite blending to display additional colors?

I'm going to use it for a Pentium MMX system for Windows 95 and 3.x games, as well as DOS games all the way down to 386. I'm also planning to get a MiSTer, so a 15KHz monitor would also be helpful for the systems that were extracted to be used on a 15KHz monitor, rather than a TV.