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First post, by SGM

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Hi there!
I have been building another Pentium rig (Socket-7) since 7 months ago, and now I hit a wall in every direction. ChatGPT couldn't help either, it produces some suspicious "salad" which doesn't help much.

Right to the point now. The main mobo is Chaintech 5TDM2. My current situation with it is a blank/"no signal" picture, no beep, nothing except a short blink of all 3 keyboard LEDs at power-on. I tried with and without RAM installed, with and without a video card, I tried 3 different video cards (at least 2 have been previously confirmed working), and 3 different CPUs. All the same result -- no beep, no image, only a short keyboard LED flash. The PSU is new (NOS) and working.
I'll include a couple of photos of this mess.

I bought an old AT case for this project, and it came with an older mobo installed, but no PSU. The mobo model is "Intel Triton OEM Motherboard SB82371SB SB82437VX HT12888B Houston Tech" which IMO is not among the best ones out there. But it did work when I installed the PSU and powered it up. Beep, memory test, and then no boot (no HDD). One day it suddenly didn't get any image, just a short beep when I powered the PC on. That's when I got the Chaintech board to replace it with. I assumed it will work, but it didn't even beep. Today I got 2 more Socket-7 boards, they behaved the same way, nothing besides a short keyboard LED flash.

Does anyone have any ideas? What to do/try next? I don't think I'm doing anything obvious wrong since the exact same method did work with the Triton board a couple of months ago, until it suddenly didn't (mysteriously overnight, nobody touched the setup).

Pentium MMX 200 (at 166MHz), 64Mb, 2Gb (CF), AWE32, S3 Virge DX/GX, 14" CRT, Win95.
Pentium 3 at 700MHz, 384Mb, 16Gb (CF), AWE64, Radeon 9200, white 15" LCD, Win98SE.
Toshiba 320CDS: Pentium MMX 233, 32Mb, 2Gb (CF), slow LCD, Win95.

Reply 1 of 5, by sunkindly

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Do you have another PSU? I know you said it's NOS but you never know, since you've tried multiple boards and also one that did work but then stopped...it's one of the common denominators.

SUN85-87: NEC PC-8801mkIIMR
SUN88-92: Northgate Elegance | 386DX-25 | Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 | SB 1.0
SUN94-96: BEK-P407 | Cyrix 5x86 120MHz | Tseng Labs ET6000 | SB 16
SUN98-01: ABIT BF6 | Pentium III 1.1GHz | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 | AU8830

Reply 2 of 5, by SGM

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sunkindly wrote on 2025-10-30, 16:12:

Do you have another PSU? I know you said it's NOS but you never know, since you've tried multiple boards and also one that did work but then stopped...it's one of the common denominators.

I only have a 15 years old 500W ATX PSU (the board supports it), I guess it's okay for testing, otherwise no, it has to be AT. 😁 All the AT PSUs that I have come with the PC cases, nothing separately.

Pentium MMX 200 (at 166MHz), 64Mb, 2Gb (CF), AWE32, S3 Virge DX/GX, 14" CRT, Win95.
Pentium 3 at 700MHz, 384Mb, 16Gb (CF), AWE64, Radeon 9200, white 15" LCD, Win98SE.
Toshiba 320CDS: Pentium MMX 233, 32Mb, 2Gb (CF), slow LCD, Win95.

Reply 3 of 5, by Ozzuneoj

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For testing old boards I highly recommend getting some AT to ATX PSU adapters so you can use more modern power supplies:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334858867116

I will admit that I haven't seen a lot of AT PSU failures, but considering the lack of safety and protection features on them and the lack of protections on boards from the time I prefer to use newer units.

Keep in mind that most adapters do not supply -5v from PSUs that do not have it, so you may want to get some voltage blasters at some point as well. Or make your own. 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 4 of 5, by SGM

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-10-30, 16:58:

For testing old boards I highly recommend getting some AT to ATX PSU adapters so you can use more modern power supplies:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334858867116

This is interesting... However, the Chaintech mobo does support ATX natively, it has both AT and ATX connectors. I prefer AT only because of that brown "It's now safe to turn off your computer" text, and no momentary switch on the PC case. If a workaround for that exists, then I'd even use ATX as a last resort, because they usually don't have the monitor power outlet.

First I'll have to find out if the problem is in the PSU after all. It does deliver power. The MHz display lights up and the CPU fan runs (both get the juice from Molex). I can check the voltage as soon as I can, based on this: https://pinoutguide.com/Power/MotherboardPower_pinout.shtml

Pentium MMX 200 (at 166MHz), 64Mb, 2Gb (CF), AWE32, S3 Virge DX/GX, 14" CRT, Win95.
Pentium 3 at 700MHz, 384Mb, 16Gb (CF), AWE64, Radeon 9200, white 15" LCD, Win98SE.
Toshiba 320CDS: Pentium MMX 233, 32Mb, 2Gb (CF), slow LCD, Win95.

Reply 5 of 5, by dionb

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SGM wrote on 2025-10-30, 17:32:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-10-30, 16:58:

For testing old boards I highly recommend getting some AT to ATX PSU adapters so you can use more modern power supplies:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334858867116

This is interesting... However, the Chaintech mobo does support ATX natively, it has both AT and ATX connectors. I prefer AT only because of that brown "It's now safe to turn off your computer" text, and no momentary switch on the PC case. If a workaround for that exists, then I'd even use ATX as a last resort, because they usually don't have the monitor power outlet.

First I'll have to find out if the problem is in the PSU after all. It does deliver power. The MHz display lights up and the CPU fan runs (both get the juice from Molex). I can check the voltage as soon as I can, based on this: https://pinoutguide.com/Power/MotherboardPower_pinout.shtml

Separate troubleshooting from your definitive configuration. You can have all kinds of requirements for an ideal situation, but first you need to get everything working.

Try the ATX PSU on that board. If that works, it's a strong indication your AT PSU is the problem - and that your board, CPU, mem and VGA are good. If not, it doesn't rule out PSU problems but makes other causes more likely.

Also, what CPU are you using and what RAM - and what jumper settings have you done on the board(s)?