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First post, by thrashertildeth

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Hello All, new user here, after lurking around for months I finally made a account. I'm dealing with a strange issue.

I acquired a Soyo sy025k for a old Tandy 2100 case I had due to the old Tandy motherboard getting wrecked, so I've been trying to hobble something together where it used to be my late father's rig back in the day.

PC will post fine, but in the BIOS when I have the HDD and FDD connected to the controller card, which is a SAB 757 ISA, it will recognize the HDD fine, but the FDD will not initialize on boot, no familiar floppy sound or anything. I have confirmed the jumpers are correct on the controller card and still to no avail.

The BIOS is Award. It's whatever came on the Soyo sy025k motherboard

The CPU is a 486 DX66

I swear I'm not trying to be a idiot, but before I decide to purchase another controller card I'm wanting to see if it's something I'm doing wrong or what?

Reply 1 of 32, by wierd_w

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This sounds like the FDC is disabled on the multio.

Can you post pictures of the controller card, that show the full board surface?

Reply 2 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Yes. I will post a photo.

Reply 3 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Here it is!

Reply 5 of 32, by wierd_w

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Your card is a Forever Grand SAB-757 from Forever Grand International.

https://theretroweb.com/expansioncards/s/fore … r-grand-sab-757

Jumpering data available.

https://theretroweb.com/expansioncard/documen … ation/20615.pdf

Looking at your card, the FDC is enabled.

You mentioned that there is an onboard controller. Have you disabled the onboard controller?

Reply 6 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Thank you. I will take a closer look.

Reply 7 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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I don't think there is a onboard controller. Here is the motherboard. I am only using that card.

Reply 9 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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It is solid green when I believe the cable is connected wrong, and if put a floppy in the drive it spins continuously, if I connect it the other way around the lights off, but when I put a floppy in the drive it will spin for like 2 seconds.

Reply 10 of 32, by wierd_w

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Solid green is indeed 'cable is upside down'.

Does your cable have a twist?

Floppy drive A comes after the twist.
Floppy drive B comes before the twist.

If there is a twist, and the drive is after it, and there is still no love, we need to examine if the floppy drive has jumpers.

Reply 11 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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So I have been working with 2 floppy drives
1 is a Compaq, I don't really have much information on it and I don't see any jumpers
The other floppy drive is a Sony MPF420-1 with the jumpers configured like so

Reply 12 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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I may get another card. Maybe something with VESA especially for this board, that original controller card was in the Tandy that used to be in that case.

Reply 13 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Got a new controller card and I'm still not having any luck gonna mess with the jumpers but I don't know I'm getting overwhelmed

Reply 14 of 32, by nuno14272

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have you put drive A on on the motherboard BIOS ?

post here your bios foto

1| 386DX40
2| P200mmx, Voodoo 1
3| PIII-450, Voodoo 3 3000

Reply 15 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Got 2 more photos. I'm also thinking about just installing a OS on the HDD on my windows 98 PC just so I can see if it can detect the FDD that way or just update my bios if that's possible

Reply 16 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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Don't know why it won't let me do another photo, it keeps saying it's over 5 MB 🤣

Finally figured it out

Reply 17 of 32, by Disruptor

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Have you already tried another cable?
Please post picture(s).

Please also try it with disabled caches (but I guess that won't help at the detection).

Reply 18 of 32, by thrashertildeth

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I've tried a different cable, I've tried 2 separate controller cards. I've even tried installing a OS on another PC and booting into it from the hard drive and it won't even boot into the hard drive. The hard drive shows up on auto detection. I've even tried a 5.25 instead of a 3.5 inch floppy to see if it would even initialize. I'm losing all hope. I have another motherboard I might try and get to work in its place but whenever I power it on it gives me a base 64k memory error. I will include more pictures soon. I feel like I've been jipped twice. I'll buy another 486 motherboard if I have to later on because I really want a 486 system but right now I've spent way too much. Will keep you posted

Reply 19 of 32, by sunkindly

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Unless I'm seeing things wrong, it looks like it's connected before the twist so at the very least it should be set to drive B in BIOS.

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