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Reply 100 of 108, by DarthSun

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-03, 02:15:
Studiostriver wrote on 2025-08-17, 14:51:
Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-08-11, 01:23:

What games?

Quite a lot to be honest, some just go dark screen without any sign of life, some have music going without video, and older 640x480 resolution is something this card is bugging the most. You get basically 4 small screens on one screen bug. New patches fixes those things, but stil some games wont run like Dune 2, even Doom 2 ocassionaly restart computer at exiting game. Monkey island series wont run properly etc.
Thats why i have FX5200 PCI currently on my computer and its far from being good card, but all old titles works perfectly well on smaller resoutions, and to my suprise pretty pleasant for eyes even being dark compare to 6600 GT or ATI graphic cards.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Monkey island, Doom2 and Dune2 play just fine on a 7950gt. The only issue I've ever had with DOS games is running too fast on speed sensitive games.

Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS
For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it.

Speed options:

0. top speed (No throttle)
1. barely a dent (6.25% throttled)
2. not really slow at all (12.5% throttled)
3. ha! I laugh at this speed. (18.75% throttled)
4. you call this slow? (25% throttled)
5. slowly getting slower (31.25% throttled)
6. sorta kinda slow (37.5% throttled)
7. now we're getting somewhere. (43.75% throttled)
8. Half speed Cap'n! (50% throttled)
9. Gimme a 486. (56.25% throttled)
A. I can wait all day. (62.5% throttled)
B. ok, make that a 386. (68.75% throttled)
C. quarter impulse power. (75% throttled)
D. whoa! is it 1983? (81.25% throttled)
E. where'd my pentium go? (87.5% throttled)
F. hello? is this thing on? (93.75% throttled)

Madness machine : CPUSpd
Syntax: CPUspd cd ce txx oxx
X99 machine, XT speed - HUANANZHI X99 TF/E5 2640v3/GTX1650/C2-T2/HT off/TDP-power profile/@2.6GHz

The attachment X99_XT_Speed.jpg is no longer available

Full Speed:

The attachment X99_Full_Speed.jpg is no longer available

It's also ok for RyZen/X299.

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 101 of 108, by Dothan Burger

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-09-03, 20:57:
Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it. […]
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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-03, 02:15:
Studiostriver wrote on 2025-08-17, 14:51:

Quite a lot to be honest, some just go dark screen without any sign of life, some have music going without video, and older 640x480 resolution is something this card is bugging the most. You get basically 4 small screens on one screen bug. New patches fixes those things, but stil some games wont run like Dune 2, even Doom 2 ocassionaly restart computer at exiting game. Monkey island series wont run properly etc.
Thats why i have FX5200 PCI currently on my computer and its far from being good card, but all old titles works perfectly well on smaller resoutions, and to my suprise pretty pleasant for eyes even being dark compare to 6600 GT or ATI graphic cards.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Monkey island, Doom2 and Dune2 play just fine on a 7950gt. The only issue I've ever had with DOS games is running too fast on speed sensitive games.

Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS
For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it.

Speed options:

0. top speed (No throttle)
1. barely a dent (6.25% throttled)
2. not really slow at all (12.5% throttled)
3. ha! I laugh at this speed. (18.75% throttled)
4. you call this slow? (25% throttled)
5. slowly getting slower (31.25% throttled)
6. sorta kinda slow (37.5% throttled)
7. now we're getting somewhere. (43.75% throttled)
8. Half speed Cap'n! (50% throttled)
9. Gimme a 486. (56.25% throttled)
A. I can wait all day. (62.5% throttled)
B. ok, make that a 386. (68.75% throttled)
C. quarter impulse power. (75% throttled)
D. whoa! is it 1983? (81.25% throttled)
E. where'd my pentium go? (87.5% throttled)
F. hello? is this thing on? (93.75% throttled)

Madness machine : CPUSpd
Syntax: CPUspd cd ce txx oxx
X99 machine, XT speed - HUANANZHI X99 TF/E5 2640v3/GTX1650/C2-T2/HT off/TDP-power profile/@2.6GHz

The attachment X99_XT_Speed.jpg is no longer available

Full Speed:

The attachment X99_Full_Speed.jpg is no longer available

It's also ok for RyZen/X299.

How many overpowered 98 machines do you have?

I'll give that throttle app a try. I've been holding off because I don't like solving everything at once, now I got something to look forward to. That and I wanted to try SB-EMU to see if I can get the Audigy to work in real DOS.

Reply 102 of 108, by DarthSun

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-04, 01:15:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-09-03, 20:57:
Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it. […]
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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-03, 02:15:

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Monkey island, Doom2 and Dune2 play just fine on a 7950gt. The only issue I've ever had with DOS games is running too fast on speed sensitive games.

Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS
For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it.

Speed options:

0. top speed (No throttle)
1. barely a dent (6.25% throttled)
2. not really slow at all (12.5% throttled)
3. ha! I laugh at this speed. (18.75% throttled)
4. you call this slow? (25% throttled)
5. slowly getting slower (31.25% throttled)
6. sorta kinda slow (37.5% throttled)
7. now we're getting somewhere. (43.75% throttled)
8. Half speed Cap'n! (50% throttled)
9. Gimme a 486. (56.25% throttled)
A. I can wait all day. (62.5% throttled)
B. ok, make that a 386. (68.75% throttled)
C. quarter impulse power. (75% throttled)
D. whoa! is it 1983? (81.25% throttled)
E. where'd my pentium go? (87.5% throttled)
F. hello? is this thing on? (93.75% throttled)

Madness machine : CPUSpd
Syntax: CPUspd cd ce txx oxx
X99 machine, XT speed - HUANANZHI X99 TF/E5 2640v3/GTX1650/C2-T2/HT off/TDP-power profile/@2.6GHz

The attachment X99_XT_Speed.jpg is no longer available

Full Speed:

The attachment X99_Full_Speed.jpg is no longer available

It's also ok for RyZen/X299.

How many overpowered 98 machines do you have?

I'll give that throttle app a try. I've been holding off because I don't like solving everything at once, now I got something to look forward to. That and I wanted to try SB-EMU to see if I can get the Audigy to work in real DOS.

Zen2, X99, X299, AM3+, AM2+ , so five.
I'm installing the X299 now, Win98 is already up and running, I'm organizing the drivers.
Audigy works with both SBEMU and VSBHDASF.

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 103 of 108, by Dothan Burger

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-09-04, 02:30:
Zen2, X99, X299, AM3+, AM2+ , so five. I'm installing the X299 now, Win98 is already up and running, I'm organizing the drivers […]
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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-04, 01:15:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-09-03, 20:57:
Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it. […]
Show full quote

Throttle DOS and Win - http://www.oldskool.org/pc/throttle/DOS
For example, on a medieval machine: to XT with it.

Speed options:

0. top speed (No throttle)
1. barely a dent (6.25% throttled)
2. not really slow at all (12.5% throttled)
3. ha! I laugh at this speed. (18.75% throttled)
4. you call this slow? (25% throttled)
5. slowly getting slower (31.25% throttled)
6. sorta kinda slow (37.5% throttled)
7. now we're getting somewhere. (43.75% throttled)
8. Half speed Cap'n! (50% throttled)
9. Gimme a 486. (56.25% throttled)
A. I can wait all day. (62.5% throttled)
B. ok, make that a 386. (68.75% throttled)
C. quarter impulse power. (75% throttled)
D. whoa! is it 1983? (81.25% throttled)
E. where'd my pentium go? (87.5% throttled)
F. hello? is this thing on? (93.75% throttled)

Madness machine : CPUSpd
Syntax: CPUspd cd ce txx oxx
X99 machine, XT speed - HUANANZHI X99 TF/E5 2640v3/GTX1650/C2-T2/HT off/TDP-power profile/@2.6GHz

The attachment X99_XT_Speed.jpg is no longer available

Full Speed:

The attachment X99_Full_Speed.jpg is no longer available

It's also ok for RyZen/X299.

How many overpowered 98 machines do you have?

I'll give that throttle app a try. I've been holding off because I don't like solving everything at once, now I got something to look forward to. That and I wanted to try SB-EMU to see if I can get the Audigy to work in real DOS.

Zen2, X99, X299, AM3+, AM2+ , so five.
I'm installing the X299 now, Win98 is already up and running, I'm organizing the drivers.
Audigy works with both SBEMU and VSBHDASF.

Is the X299 board one of those Ali express boards? I only try to install 98 on boards with PS/2 ports. Do you worry about that, or do you have a work around for that?

Reply 104 of 108, by DarthSun

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-05, 01:30:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-09-04, 02:30:
Zen2, X99, X299, AM3+, AM2+ , so five. I'm installing the X299 now, Win98 is already up and running, I'm organizing the drivers […]
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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-04, 01:15:

How many overpowered 98 machines do you have?

I'll give that throttle app a try. I've been holding off because I don't like solving everything at once, now I got something to look forward to. That and I wanted to try SB-EMU to see if I can get the Audigy to work in real DOS.

Zen2, X99, X299, AM3+, AM2+ , so five.
I'm installing the X299 now, Win98 is already up and running, I'm organizing the drivers.
Audigy works with both SBEMU and VSBHDASF.

Is the X299 board one of those Ali express boards? I only try to install 98 on boards with PS/2 ports. Do you worry about that, or do you have a work around for that?

The board is Asrock X299 Taichi XE. It has a PS/2 port, so it's a little easier, although it can be solved with a USB line. The mouse can be more problematic, the keyboard works smoothly.
Still life, here Win8.1 was tested, it was suddenly on hand on an SSD.

The attachment 1PNLit_X299.jpg is no longer available
The attachment x299_w8_1_3dm03_def.png is no longer available

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 105 of 108, by Studiostriver

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-03, 02:15:
Studiostriver wrote on 2025-08-17, 14:51:
Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-08-11, 01:23:

What games?

Quite a lot to be honest, some just go dark screen without any sign of life, some have music going without video, and older 640x480 resolution is something this card is bugging the most. You get basically 4 small screens on one screen bug. New patches fixes those things, but stil some games wont run like Dune 2, even Doom 2 ocassionaly restart computer at exiting game. Monkey island series wont run properly etc.
Thats why i have FX5200 PCI currently on my computer and its far from being good card, but all old titles works perfectly well on smaller resoutions, and to my suprise pretty pleasant for eyes even being dark compare to 6600 GT or ATI graphic cards.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Monkey island, Doom2 and Dune2 play just fine on a 7950gt. The only issue I've ever had with DOS games is running too fast on speed sensitive games.

My 6600 GT simply refuse to work well on 640x480 resolution with plenty issues on DOS games, FX 5200 PCI upgraded with Zalman passive cooler works so well that i stopped trying, its just so stable system know that i have no complaints. I tried everything to make it work with one gpu card, but simply i had too much husle with lots of cards. Recently even 9800 Pro had compability issues and even lots of 9600 XT/Pro series. This one runs so stable and smooth with highest fps i ever had for old games.

Reply 106 of 108, by MrSegfault

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Would the 7900 series cards artifact if they reach around 40-50 degrees or is that considered acceptable? My card's temperature seems to make it up to around 40 degrees when running a few games.

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Reply 107 of 108, by momaka

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MrSegfault wrote on 2025-12-02, 04:54:

Would the 7900 series cards artifact if they reach around 40-50 degrees or is that considered acceptable? My card's temperature seems to make it up to around 40 degrees when running a few games.

40C under load (running games) is well under and far away from the unsafe temperature point (generally regarded as 70C by most people, though I would personally say anything over 60C can start to be considered as sub-optimal due to differences in ASIC quality and other manufacturing tolerances, with 65C and over escallating the danger of failure quite a bit more.)

Actually, are you sure it's running that low? I have never seen a 7900 series card run that low under any load... at least not with any standard air cooling solution. My experience with the stock reference "cooler" on the GS and GT cards is that it provides abysmal cooling at best, and usually mid 40s to low 50's Celsius is where I see these cards to be idling. Under full (100%) GPU load, the temperatures easily hit 85+C, and that with good new thermal compound too (MX-2 or MX-4 usually). Now I'm not sure how the 7900GTX cooler fairs, as that is a much much better cooler. But the GTX is also a much hotter card, despite based on the same GPU silicon.

In any case, might be worth to double-check you findings. GPU-Z with its built-in data logging (and enabled) can be useful for that.
On Win XP, I personally also often use SpeedFan to draw a graph of the GPU temperatures. That way I can get a good look at how the temps vary under various loads.

Reply 108 of 108, by MrSegfault

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momaka wrote on 2025-12-02, 13:53:
40C under load (running games) is well under and far away from the unsafe temperature point (generally regarded as 70C by most p […]
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MrSegfault wrote on 2025-12-02, 04:54:

Would the 7900 series cards artifact if they reach around 40-50 degrees or is that considered acceptable? My card's temperature seems to make it up to around 40 degrees when running a few games.

40C under load (running games) is well under and far away from the unsafe temperature point (generally regarded as 70C by most people, though I would personally say anything over 60C can start to be considered as sub-optimal due to differences in ASIC quality and other manufacturing tolerances, with 65C and over escallating the danger of failure quite a bit more.)

Actually, are you sure it's running that low? I have never seen a 7900 series card run that low under any load... at least not with any standard air cooling solution. My experience with the stock reference "cooler" on the GS and GT cards is that it provides abysmal cooling at best, and usually mid 40s to low 50's Celsius is where I see these cards to be idling. Under full (100%) GPU load, the temperatures easily hit 85+C, and that with good new thermal compound too (MX-2 or MX-4 usually). Now I'm not sure how the 7900GTX cooler fairs, as that is a much much better cooler. But the GTX is also a much hotter card, despite based on the same GPU silicon.

In any case, might be worth to double-check you findings. GPU-Z with its built-in data logging (and enabled) can be useful for that.
On Win XP, I personally also often use SpeedFan to draw a graph of the GPU temperatures. That way I can get a good look at how the temps vary under various loads.

So far, I've ran games like Unreal, Grand Theft Auto III, and The Italian Job. The temperature would remain around 32-33 when on the desktop but would reach around 37-40 when running games. However, I have to bring up the fact that Speedfan and the Nvidia control panel both display different temperature values for some reason. What's even stranger is that temps under Windows 98 are lower than on Windows XP (and on the desktop).

I do not have a stock cooler on my graphics card. I've replaced mine with a Zalman VF900 (as mentioned in an older post) and the temps went down drastically which is a nice improvement but I wonder if there's something I could do to reduce them further or keep them sustained.

My case airflow setup consists of the following. It has two 80mm intake on the front of the chassis (which brings in air from the bottom of the front panel), screw hole modification on the bottom of the case to provide 120mm intake, and a 120mm exhaust fan to push out the hot air.

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