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Reply 57960 of 57966, by MattRocks

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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:15:

its fking insane ... you list a C64 for 100 euros and it stays there for 10 years, you list it for 5 euros and it is gone in 10 seconds

Clearly there is a struggle to find a fair price?

Reply 57961 of 57966, by tehsiggi

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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:
tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 13:59:

What a beauty. Apparently broken, but I haven't got time to test her yet.
Another one on my list.

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What is it ?

is it a 9600XT or Pro ?

As pointed out here:

marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:44:
Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:

What is it ?

is it a 9600XT or Pro ?

More like 9700Pro, 9600XT and 9600Pro does not have extra power need and there is PN 109-94200-11

It's a 9700Pro from Gigabyte. Probably bad memory, but the gold + red design is just top.

Btw. many of the 9600Pro/XT PCBs actually had external power in mind, but never needed it (not populated). Makes you wonder.

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Reply 57962 of 57966, by Nunoalex

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 16:00:
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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:
tehsiggi wrote on 2025-12-10, 13:59:

What a beauty. Apparently broken, but I haven't got time to test her yet.
Another one on my list.

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What is it ?

is it a 9600XT or Pro ?

As pointed out here:

marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:44:
Nunoalex wrote on 2025-12-10, 15:20:

What is it ?

is it a 9600XT or Pro ?

More like 9700Pro, 9600XT and 9600Pro does not have extra power need and there is PN 109-94200-11

It's a 9700Pro from Gigabyte. Probably bad memory, but the gold + red design is just top.

Btw. many of the 9600Pro/XT PCBs actually had external power in mind, but never needed it (not populated). Makes you wonder.

aha ! You are correct I have 2 or 3 9600XT and they really dont have the power connector
Unfortunately I dont own a 9700 .. and in my experience many 9600 go bad ... maybe the 9700s too

Reply 57963 of 57966, by marxveix

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Mostly Radeon 9700/9800 cards go bad easier,something with cooling system,
Radeon 9600Pro/XT are better at that, bit newer and has fixed cooling solution.

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Reply 57964 of 57966, by tehsiggi

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marxveix wrote on 2025-12-10, 18:04:

Mostly Radeon 9700/9800 cards go bad easier,something with cooling system,
Radeon 9600Pro/XT are better at that, bit newer and has fixed cooling solution.

Most deaths appear to be memory.. If you have 9600 with BGA mem as well, it can face the same issues.

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Reply 57965 of 57966, by Ozzuneoj

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I eagle-eyed this one in a lot recently and the seller agreed to sell it separately. I have had an M919 for around 8 years that has needed a cache module, and I found another M919 variant within the last couple years that is also missing (real) cache. I know that new ones can be built, but that can be a bit of a process and saving an original one from getting scrapped seemed like a good thing to do. Honestly, the rest of the lot ended up selling for way less than I expected, so I probably could have just bid on it, but I have no idea how high the other peoples' max bids were.

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I'm happy to have gotten this for a low-ish price (~$20 shipped). I just hope it works. After getting a close look at the picture it appears that there is some discoloration on the contacts... I'm hoping it's just the lighting and not a sign of severe battery rot.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 57966 of 57966, by Ozzuneoj

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I saw a lot of K6-2 processors for scrap recently, and upon inspection I saw a K6-2+ in the picture. I didn't have one of these yet so I figured it was worth watching. I kept trying to make out details of the other processors and it kinda sorta looked like one might be a K6-III too, but it was just as likely to have been a jpeg artifact. I managed to win the listing for a good price and the lot was delivered today...

... in a bubble mailer... But hey, the seller put a "Handle with Care" sticker on the mailer, so it was probably all good, right?😓

Thankfully, they packed them pretty decently, with a 4 chips in a row, with layer of bubble wrap between the next 4 chips. At first glance I'm not seeing any broken pins though tons of them are severely bent, but I was expecting that anyway... It will take hours to get them all straightened...

So, I dug through the lot, spent a good hour cleaning all the hardened thermal paste off of them and boy, what a score! The lot contained:

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1x K6 PR2-166ALR
1x K6-2 300AFR (with an interesting little scan code printed on it with "300Mhz" next to it... never seen one like this before)
3x K6-2 500AFX
2x K6-2 450AFX
3x K6-2 400AFQ
3x K6-2 380AFR

and the best ones of the lot...

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K6-2+ 550ACZ
K6-III+ 500ANZ

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Still kind of in shock over this find. It looks like all the pins are intact on both of them too. The K6-2+ 550ACZ is 2.0v part, and appears to be the second best K6-2+ you can find, just below the 570ACZ.

The 500ANZ is a 1.8v part... which according to CPU-World makes it the only 500Mhz+ K6-III+ rated for less than 2v. Probably not much of a stretch to say that this is one of the best K6-III+ models I could have found... possibly even better than the 550ACR (2.0v).

I have a bunch of SS7 boards. If you had to couple one of these chips with a board for the best SS7 system possible, with the most flexibility (underclocking, overclocking, performance, compatibility, stability, etc.) what would you choose?

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.