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Reply 20 of 24, by afshin6760

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jtchip wrote on 2025-12-21, 01:39:
Not necessarily, the earlier ones used a mux to switch the display outputs between the integrated and discrete GPUs. AIUI those […]
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myne wrote on 2025-12-20, 12:03:

All laptops since gpus were ever added do this.

Not necessarily, the earlier ones used a mux to switch the display outputs between the integrated and discrete GPUs. AIUI those made in the last 10-15 years, perhaps when PCIe bandwidth became sufficient so as to not cause a significant performance dip, switched to mux-less designs.

myne wrote on 2025-12-20, 12:03:

All it really is is copying the framebuffer from one card to another.

Indeed but it needs the drivers to have ability to do that. Easier to do that on a laptop with a fixed configuration and laptop vendor-supplied drivers but a potential nightmare on a desktop with any combination of devices and drivers.

In a sense this is a special case of ATI Crossfire where instead of sharing the rendering between 2 GPUs (one of which can even be integrated in the case of Hybrid Crossfire), one GPU does all of the rendering work.

afshin6760 wrote on 2025-12-20, 19:03:

After a little research, I found out that using this method with an iGPU is much more risky because many motherboards do not allow the simultaneous use of an iGPU and graphics.

It depends on the motherboard. Don't know about Windows but on Linux this combination has some use because the dGPU is disabled, and hence draws no power, when not in use and iGPUs have lower power draw at idle or light loads.

In any case, this thread really belongs on Milliways since an old secondary GPU that can do this really isn't that old. You should ask on other forums too.

Thanks, I’ve asked this on Milliways forum as well.

Reply 22 of 24, by afshin6760

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Update: Success with RTX 4060 + i3-13100 + H610M-K (VGA Output)
​I wanted to confirm that you can use a modern dedicated GPU (like my RTX 4060) while keeping your monitor connected to the motherboard's VGA port. This is perfect for those using CRT monitors.
​How I did it:
​Plugged the CRT monitor directly into the motherboard's VGA port (using the i3-13100's iGPU).
​In Windows 11, I went to Settings > System > Display > Graphics.
​Under "Custom options for apps," I selected my games and set them to "High Performance" (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060).
​Result: The games render using the RTX 4060's power, but the frames are passed through the iGPU to the VGA output. It works flawlessly with no noticeable lag, and the image quality on my CRT is incredibly sharp!

Reply 23 of 24, by afshin6760

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afshin6760 wrote on 2026-02-03, 02:37:
Update: Success with RTX 4060 + i3-13100 + H610M-K (VGA Output) ​I wanted to confirm that you can use a modern dedicated GPU (li […]
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Update: Success with RTX 4060 + i3-13100 + H610M-K (VGA Output)
​I wanted to confirm that you can use a modern dedicated GPU (like my RTX 4060) while keeping your monitor connected to the motherboard's VGA port. This is perfect for those using CRT monitors.
​How I did it:
​Plugged the CRT monitor directly into the motherboard's VGA port (using the i3-13100's iGPU).
​In Windows 11, I went to Settings > System > Display > Graphics.
​Under "Custom options for apps," I selected my games and set them to "High Performance" (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060).
​Result: The games render using the RTX 4060's power, but the frames are passed through the iGPU to the VGA output. It works flawlessly with no noticeable lag, and the image quality on my CRT is incredibly sharp!

And before this, I had selected the igpu multi monitor and image output option in the bios and set its memory to 128mb.

Reply 24 of 24, by afshin6760

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afshin6760 wrote on 2026-02-03, 02:37:
Update: Success with RTX 4060 + i3-13100 + H610M-K (VGA Output) ​I wanted to confirm that you can use a modern dedicated GPU (li […]
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Update: Success with RTX 4060 + i3-13100 + H610M-K (VGA Output)
​I wanted to confirm that you can use a modern dedicated GPU (like my RTX 4060) while keeping your monitor connected to the motherboard's VGA port. This is perfect for those using CRT monitors.
​How I did it:
​Plugged the CRT monitor directly into the motherboard's VGA port (using the i3-13100's iGPU).
​In Windows 11, I went to Settings > System > Display > Graphics.
​Under "Custom options for apps," I selected my games and set them to "High Performance" (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060).
​Result: The games render using the RTX 4060's power, but the frames are passed through the iGPU to the VGA output. It works flawlessly with no noticeable lag, and the image quality on my CRT is incredibly sharp!

Some DirectX games below 11 do not work with this method but do work using dgvoodoo.