First post, by z0rlog
Hi everyone,
I think I have read hundreds of floppy issues threads at this point on the forum, but none of issues were like mine. So, opening this thread.
I’m building an old PC for DOS and old Windows, looking for some ideas why floppy drive’s giving issues most of the time but sometimes working without any issues at all.
So, I have bought 3.5” D33113 ALPS Electric drive, completely new as the eBay listing stated. Also bought a generic cable with two drives support (has a twist at one end). Initially was using ASUS A7V400-MX motherboard. Connected everything, verified BIOS settings, loaded into MS-DOS 6.22, tried to use floppy disk with Norton Commander I made on my modern PC using USB floppy drive and… fail. Floppy either shows data error reading drive A: or says disc is not formatted. Formatting disk on retro PC showed quite a lot of bad clusters. Tried to put some files on the disk, worked fine a few times but eventually failed reading or copying. Scandisk always showed bad clusters.
Okay, probably cable issues, I thought. Have bought two more cables on Amazon from different manufacturers, tried them as well. Same issues. Contacted seller on eBay to check if anyone returned floppy drive as faulty. Seller said that they had sold around hundred drives with no issues from the customers.
Bought a USB-to-FDC adapter, just some generic on Amazon. Connected drive to my modern PC. No issues whatsoever. Even that diskette showed no bad clusters. Connected it to retro PC and tried to boot from USB-FDD, no issues again (but obviously it’s not usable beyond boot).
Okay, drive seems to be working, having tried three cables probably tells it’s not a cable issue. So, thinking it’s a motherboard problem, I have bought another one - MSI MS-6340 V.1 (new old stock as stated). Connected everything again… and same exact issues. Suspected PSU, which doesn’t have FDD connectors and I have to use adapter. Checked voltage and it is fine, 5V (12V is not connected on floppy drive side). Still not sure about stability or if current is enough, my drive has “5V 1.0A” label on it, which is quite high compared to some old floppy drives I saw on eBay (usually they draw 0.5A or less). But then most of the PSU connectors can supply 1.5A.
And finally I started suspecting some electromagnetic noise causing these random issues, since my case is quite small and some cables from HDD are very close to the floppy one. Tried to run the system with open case, moved cables around, noticed errors changed to some other ones. And at some point when I was holding cable and drive in a specific way everything worked fine, I was even able to install Wolfenstein 3D from a floppy! But then I lost the position and was not able to fix it.
It still sounds like PSU might be an issue here, since it’s the only component I haven’t changed in this setup. Is it still possible that the floppy drive is sort of too new for my current motherboards? I have already spent too much on troubleshooting, not sure should I try an older floppy or other PSU?
All of the above is a bit weird to me, since I had computers starting from 1998, and never experienced any floppy issues. In fact my cabling was always a complete mess. So I am surprised it didn’t work from the first run.
I feel like I am missing something very obvious, but can’t figure it out. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks.
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