First post, by RavingNoah
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Spent about $140 acquiring this heretofore working Voodoo3 3000 AGP GPU. It's been sitting around most of that time, waiting for me to work out the problems associated with building a system around it. Long story we'll skip, but first motherboard to successfully arrive here had been a Gigabyte GA-6BXE, which I liked very much, but discovered the Rev 1.9 has inferior MOSFETS and when I ran the Voodoo3 in it, I nearly burned my finger "touch testing" to see whether I needed to install an AGP slot facing fan. Sourced some ridiculously large 'board level heatsinks' that ultimately wasn't going to work, so stopped trying to make the 6BXE rev1.9 Voodoo3 tolerable.
Fast forward past all the troubles trying to get the SE440BX-2 to recognize and allow a Star Tech CF reader + FAT32 formatted CF card as the main OS drive, and now I have a ZuluSCSI-based Windows 98SE installation, and for the past few days, have been stupid happy. Seems to be going well. Finally get a day off, start 'testing with Quake 2.' Played it for about a half hour. No troubles (3dfx drivers installed). Went to switch to MS-DOS mode, for no particularly good reason. Drop into DOS, click exit...get a message saying 'Windows is being restarted.' But the system hangs. So, I soft reset with Ctrl-Alt-Del and suddenly I have a long beep, followed by two short beeps and no 3dfx splash screen loading prior to the Adaptec SCSI menu, which is prior to the SE440BX-2 BIOS load. No analog signal. Talking it over with ChatGPT because...it's available.
Luckily, from the purchase and packages and lots that made up my sourcing of my "final" Win98SE box's current form, I have a spare ATI Rage AGP card that's filling in, and I also have an S3 Trio64V+ PCI card floating around, but the whole reason to even build this system was for it to run 3dfx and glide games, as a project to just revisit as best as I could manage, the kind of system I had a long time ago, or wanted and could never afford. I'm getting mixed messages about what the cause could be, and I'm getting schizophrenic noise from ChatGPT, so I've come to 'the community.'
At first, I though 'maybe the thermal paste is old.' I'll just re-goop it. I did this on a previous project of getting a GeForce 260 3-SLI system going on my old 780i SLI FTW Win7 box. But the Voodoo3 is held together by two brass fittings and springs, and what I thought was just old paste is, I guess, some kind of epoxy or glue or something. All I know is I can't get the heatsink off using gentle pressure or nominal heat, and my cousin is telling me the symptoms don't match my proposed investigatory arc. Has suggested multimeters and thermal cameras, 🤣. I have none of these things and wasn't planning on becoming an engineer. But, also don't want to let it go. I thought 'oh, I'll just buy another Voodoo3.' But...now all I'm seeing is broken boards being sold for parts and they are still going for $200. So, when do I need to consider being something of a PCB technician?
As an alternate question, and only because I'm too ignorant to know if ChatGPT is being schizophrenic or not, but it reported to me that Windows 98, when going into MS-DOS mode from inside the OS, and then re-starting the OS, makes some kind of phase change or flag or bit change that 'puts the AGP card into a compatibility state' or somesuch, and that sometimes, it's brutal on 3dfx AGP in particular, and sometimes that flag or bit change prevents it from posting. If any of that even sounds remotely like non-robot-mental-illness, please let me know.
Also, when do you consider packing it off to 'an expert' for a heavy expert fee? Or, on the flip-side, when do you consider cutting off the question entirely and you just assume the card is 'dead dead.' I do not believe, or want to believe, since it was working fabulously not three hours ago, that this card is 'dead dead.'
Some system details:
Mobo: SE440BX-2
CPU: Was 400MHz Celeron, now Pentium III 600MHz
RAM: 512MB non-ECC 256MB-per-stick, two sticks
Sound: AWE64 ISA
Storage: 64GB SanDisk SD, split into three SCSI images and a couple CD images, on a ZuluSCSI adapter
Peripherals: Adaptec SCSI PCI, Netgear PCI NIC, USB 2.0 PCI, Gotek floppy emulator, actual spinning rust CD drive
<sarcasm>Hello World!</sarcasm>