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First post, by shandavid

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Compared to v7.0, this version has significantly improved in sound quality, elevating music performance to another level.

Changelog:
8.0
-Added 42 GS presets.
-Changed Piano 1/2/3, Honky-tonk, Celesta, Overdrive Guitar, Timpani, Oboe, Steel Drum.
-Many sounds have been remade to improve sound quality.
-Optimized parameters to improve overall sound quality.
-Optimized volume balance.
-Some minor fixes.

Download:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1r … PRNggRO-OedAeH9

Demo music:
Mizuiro みずいろ - 坂道と交差点
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QmmNZjeM0k

Mizuiro みずいろ - 降る雪
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-IoxPH_xI

ACE COMBAT2 - FIRE YOUNGMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgTBtrFGC4

ACE COMBAT2 - EXTRA ENDING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zn4bsuWGPc

Joe Hisaishi 久石譲 - Nostalgia ~piano stories III~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCW4_-E_a1k

天空の城ラピュタ - 君をのせて
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6a_UQnczV0

となりのトトロ - My Neighbor Totoro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIT4VGXtAE

魔女の宅急便 - 海の見える街
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqgQewR4_s

Reply 1 of 9, by Disruptor

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128 MB in size. There is a version for AWE with 28/32 MB available too.

Reply 2 of 9, by crusher

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Thanks alot for further improving this great soundfont! 😀

Reply 3 of 9, by K.A.R.R.

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thx for the new version
I usually listen to pop midi files rather than game soundtracks.
but your soundfont sounds really well-balanced and is one of the best.

I've already tried many soundfonts and vsts to play midi files

giant soundfont 6.7 (also very good but very large)
TyrolandGS25 (not bad but has same "weakness" as sound canvas: drumsets are weak)
Apollo GMGS v1.105 (some instruments sounds good others don't)
Monalisa GM v2.109 (instruments especially the volumes are not good balanced and too much basic reverb)
Papelmedia Final XXL (extremely bad for a commercial product, many instruments sounds terrible)
Timbres of Heaven 4.0 (may be good for classical or orchestral music, bad for pop music)

yamaha xg (good for xg midi files, but instruments sound not very good compared to modern sfs)
roland sound canvas va 1.06 (sc 55, 88, 88 pro, 8820) (sounds artificially clean and thin, drumsets are very weak same like real hardware)
gravis ultrasound ppl 1.61 (not bad for an old soundcard but cannot match modern sfs 😀 )
native instruments bandstand 1.03.003 with hifi preset (can sound very good but drum kits are not the best, sound is a bit dull even with hifi eq preset)

Reply 5 of 9, by shandavid

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K.A.R.R. wrote on 2026-01-06, 19:44:
thx for the new version I usually listen to pop midi files rather than game soundtracks. but your soundfont sounds really well- […]
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thx for the new version
I usually listen to pop midi files rather than game soundtracks.
but your soundfont sounds really well-balanced and is one of the best.

I've already tried many soundfonts and vsts to play midi files

giant soundfont 6.7 (also very good but very large)
TyrolandGS25 (not bad but has same "weakness" as sound canvas: drumsets are weak)
Apollo GMGS v1.105 (some instruments sounds good others don't)
Monalisa GM v2.109 (instruments especially the volumes are not good balanced and too much basic reverb)
Papelmedia Final XXL (extremely bad for a commercial product, many instruments sounds terrible)
Timbres of Heaven 4.0 (may be good for classical or orchestral music, bad for pop music)

yamaha xg (good for xg midi files, but instruments sound not very good compared to modern sfs)
roland sound canvas va 1.06 (sc 55, 88, 88 pro, 8820) (sounds artificially clean and thin, drumsets are very weak same like real hardware)
gravis ultrasound ppl 1.61 (not bad for an old soundcard but cannot match modern sfs 😀 )
native instruments bandstand 1.03.003 with hifi preset (can sound very good but drum kits are not the best, sound is a bit dull even with hifi eq preset)

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Wow, you've collected quite a few soundfonts!
I've only kept these, I'll probably delete SGM versions 4.0-7.0 soon too.
Seeing older versions of SGM reminds me of the mistakes I made when creating them, which makes me a little uncomfortable.....

(Now when I see people mentioning V2.01, I want to beg them to stop using it and delete it immediately... jesus.)

Reply 6 of 9, by K.A.R.R.

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your soundfont v2.01 was very popular back then.
it was a big improvement to tools like wingroove or yamaha s‑yxg50
i'm sure there are still many people who use v2.01 today. 😀

Reply 7 of 9, by NeoG_

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shandavid wrote on 2026-01-08, 22:57:

I've only kept these, I'll probably delete SGM versions 4.0-7.0 soon too.
Seeing older versions of SGM reminds me of the mistakes I made when creating them, which makes me a little uncomfortable.....

(Now when I see people mentioning V2.01, I want to beg them to stop using it and delete it immediately... jesus.)

I hope this is not too forward but I encourage you to change this mindset to archive all versions, regardless of how they make you feel. So many things get lost to time and it's a shame to add to that intentionally. Hopefully instead of a trail of mistakes you can see a pathway of improvement.

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Reply 8 of 9, by shandavid

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NeoG_ wrote on Yesterday, 05:04:
shandavid wrote on 2026-01-08, 22:57:

I've only kept these, I'll probably delete SGM versions 4.0-7.0 soon too.
Seeing older versions of SGM reminds me of the mistakes I made when creating them, which makes me a little uncomfortable.....

(Now when I see people mentioning V2.01, I want to beg them to stop using it and delete it immediately... jesus.)

I hope this is not too forward but I encourage you to change this mindset to archive all versions, regardless of how they make you feel. So many things get lost to time and it's a shame to add to that intentionally. Hopefully instead of a trail of mistakes you can see a pathway of improvement.

I know what you mean. I also enjoy listening to music from the 80s and 90s and the synthesizers of that era, especially stuff from before 1997. My family had a Pioneer vinyl record player when I was a kid.

SGM v2.01 has many sounds from around 2000, when the music industry was already declining, and people were chasing large file sizes and louder sounds.

Due to my inexperience and tinkering at the time, SGMV2.01 had many bugs. Good MIDI files sounded worse on it than on SoundCanvas, and composers using SGM V2.01 would significantly limit the quality of their work. You could say SGM v2.01 itself was one of the small things that made the industry worse, not better.

Stuff from the 80s to the mid-90s had a higher quality standard. We need to work harder to capture the feel of that era, instead of just doing it haphazardly.

Consumers in the past were more discerning and demanding than they are today, mediocre products had no market back then.
It's not about chasing the latest version, but about demanding higher quality.

SGM-Pro uses many better sounds from earlier times (early 90s) than V2.01, The instruments in the SGM-Pro were carefully selected, featuring some of the best sounds from the 1990s.

The SGM-Pro contains 1000 WAV samples, and 99% of these samples have a volume difference of less than 3dB compared to the SC88Pro. The volume balance of each WAV sample was manually and repeatedly adjusted.

There are also many other sound quality optimizations.

That's why the SGM-Pro's sound, precision, and quality are far superior to the v2.01. I feel a little embarrassed listening to the v2.01 now, thinking, "What the hell is this?", so I simply deleted it.

I know everyone has different tastes, but the quality of the v2.01 isn't good enough to discuss stylistic preferences.

Reply 9 of 9, by shandavid

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NeoG_ wrote on Yesterday, 05:04:
shandavid wrote on 2026-01-08, 22:57:

I've only kept these, I'll probably delete SGM versions 4.0-7.0 soon too.
Seeing older versions of SGM reminds me of the mistakes I made when creating them, which makes me a little uncomfortable.....

(Now when I see people mentioning V2.01, I want to beg them to stop using it and delete it immediately... jesus.)

I hope this is not too forward but I encourage you to change this mindset to archive all versions, regardless of how they make you feel. So many things get lost to time and it's a shame to add to that intentionally. Hopefully instead of a trail of mistakes you can see a pathway of improvement.

Oh, and also, I'm currently using Pioneer speakers and headphones from the 1980s, the sound is much better than modern speakers and headphones.

20 years ago, I used Denon speakers and AKG K240M headphones, which I bought in 1995, their sound was much worse than these Pioneer speakers & headphones.

I also used Sennheiser HD800s 15 years ago. At the time, I felt the sound was worth 70 points. After listening to Pioneer headphones from the 80s, the HD800s sounded like trash, only 15-20 points out of 100.

Pioneer SE11 headphones:
https://youtu.be/lkEMpHgJUJk