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Reply 58160 of 58181, by Ozzuneoj

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AndrettiGTO wrote on 2026-01-31, 19:44:
Microsoft Diagnostics didn’t see any RAM issues and visually passed the graphics tests. Of course, buggy CheckIt flagged all sor […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-01-31, 03:12:

First thing I would do is use a magnifier to inspect every solder joint on the back. Especially the legs of the memory chips. It has some scuffs and scratches on it, so it could have been tossed around at some point.

Microsoft Diagnostics didn’t see any RAM issues and visually passed the graphics tests. Of course, buggy CheckIt flagged all sorts of memory. Didn’t feel it was ROM issue as the random characters were all valid extended ASCII.
With my magnifier glasses, started straightening a bunch of badly folded pins that extended to other traces. THEN I SAW A SMALL DEEP SCRATCH!
OMG, I was suddenly filled with real hope! Added four bodge wires and wow, it works great. Such a relief as I didn’t want to sink more money into this.

Everything in this lovable hobby is getting so expensive.

Ah! Nice job!

Following the paths of scratches has lead me to repair a lot of cards in recent years. At this point most of these things have had decades to get crushed and scraped by much larger and heavier objects in some spare parts bin.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 58161 of 58181, by RavingNoah

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zapbuzz wrote on 2026-01-30, 09:30:

Google AI said...

Every time I consult with ChatGPT, my wallet mysteriously yawns widely open.

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Reply 58162 of 58181, by fosterwj03

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OMORES wrote on 2026-01-31, 20:10:

I just did a quick test on this Matrox G400 DualHead. It works, even in this… let's call it a ménage à trois setup.

Does anyone sell those AGP to PCI adapters? I've seen the PCB files online, but I don't trust my soldering skills to make one.

Reply 58163 of 58181, by OMORES

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You can find some PCI to AGP adapters on eBay for around ~$100, but those are simply pin-to-pin converters with literally nothing else on them.

The one I have (and tested in this video) is quite fancy, and if you order it from a site like Jlcpcb, you might even get it for under $100. Check the specifications here: https://sdz-mods.com/index.php/2020/06/22/pci … to-agp-adapter/

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Reply 58164 of 58181, by AndreaColombo86

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Just purchased as ASUS ARES graphics card. A very rare find, as only 999 were ever made. It will pair beautifully with my ARES II—I’ll use one in my X48 build and the other in my X58 build.

Ironically, the ARES was twice as expensive as the ARES II.

Reply 58165 of 58181, by Major Jackyl

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I'm going to pause todays bit of work for a second to explore today's retro purchase:

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I am excited for this one. Items from the thrift store have a high chance of stuff on the drive. I can peep through the hole in the bottom and see the drive was unplugged, maybe why it was finally discarded?

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I connected the drive and am preparing for testing. Going for my Micron PRO Magnum.

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Reply 58166 of 58181, by AndreaColombo86

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Just pulled the trigger on the Intel QX9770 for my Socket 775 build. At 200€, it was pretty expensive but still cheaper than other listings for the same processors. I saved about 80€.

Reply 58167 of 58181, by Munx

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AndreaColombo86 wrote on 2026-02-02, 12:55:

Just pulled the trigger on the Intel QX9770 for my Socket 775 build. At 200€, it was pretty expensive but still cheaper than other listings for the same processors. I saved about 80€.

Wait, those cost WHAT? I picked one up from a random parts sale a while ago, thinking I could use it in a WinXP build or something, but didn't get around to doing anything with it.

This just might pay for my last car repair 😁

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Reply 58168 of 58181, by BitWrangler

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Munx wrote on 2026-02-02, 15:01:
AndreaColombo86 wrote on 2026-02-02, 12:55:

Just pulled the trigger on the Intel QX9770 for my Socket 775 build. At 200€, it was pretty expensive but still cheaper than other listings for the same processors. I saved about 80€.

Wait, those cost WHAT? I picked one up from a random parts sale a while ago, thinking I could use it in a WinXP build or something, but didn't get around to doing anything with it.

This just might pay for my last car repair 😁

Though I would encourage people to make the financial choices that are right for them and do with their own stuff what they want, I will say with tongue in cheek....

The disadvantage of selling computer parts for car repairs is that it makes your car more valuable and your total value in computer hardware less valuable. One of the noted "hacker cred" metrics of years past, (Seriously, you can find it in "The Jargon File") is that a hacker's vehicle is worth less than the value of his computer hardware.

I am not sure how harshly a lapse is judged, like whether I am on probation or now in violation since I went from a several year old Kia to a new vehicle 6 months ago, especially since "value" of a retro collection is like nailing jello to a wall. Possibly I still just about qualify if "crazy eBay prices" the highest sold prices, are used, or give it a year depreciation one side and a year appreciation on the other and I squeak back in. Not that I have gone mondo insane paying out the ass collecting things, I just picked up things I thought were cool then a long time later they were cool and expensive. Though some later pickups happened because I got lucky on low price with something that was already rising.

Though pondering things volume wise, I guess if I needed the cash, the first 10k would fit in a tote, the next 10k would take a palette, then a whole van load... not sure if it's going by 2s without packing or 4s with. Though typically when I think "may as well cash this out" it's the low value stuff, and would be "as-is"-ing it by the box load, lot of work for minimal gain, apart from freeing the most space. Though long term plan is really to compare "slightly later middle" against "high end" and convince myself there's no difference in playing on one vs the other, thus keeping a curated bunch of good enough machines.

So, nonsense aside, I'd be inclined to (eventually) sell a QX9770 if I had one, and run a 771 Xeon, like an E5450 with the bus speed higher. (It not being coincidental that I picked up several E54x0 Xeons cheap the other year)

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Reply 58170 of 58181, by Minutemanqvs

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An AWE 64 and a Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB with a huge passive cooling from Sapphire, for 15€. And for once, the Radeon 9800 actually works without artefacts...I'm pretty happy this showed up!

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Reply 58171 of 58181, by PD2JK

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That's a steal! Now the trick is to keep them in working order. 😮

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Reply 58172 of 58181, by MattRocks

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I didn't know Sapphire did a passive 9800! 😮

I'm really into passives and that is the greatest card I can imagine.

Reply 58173 of 58181, by luckybob

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MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 20:10:

I didn't know Sapphire did a passive 9800! 😮

I'm really into passives and that is the greatest card I can imagine.

its actually a 3rd party heatsink. Made by Thermaltake as memory serves me. In this case, Sapphire just bought a bunch of (likely) overstock coolers and dropped this 'special edition'.

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. - Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam

Reply 58174 of 58181, by AndrettiGTO

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Wondering how it is with slot clearances

It's all fun and games 'till someone loses an eyeball

Reply 58175 of 58181, by MattRocks

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zapbuzz wrote on 2026-01-30, 09:30:

tried and tried to install a Realtek RTL8139D PCI Network card on windows millennium here it is cost $2.00 so not a big loss I'll keep it for an XP system instead. Google AI said its good for WinMe but maybe that's an earlier revision.

Back in the day lots of people complained about Realtek NICs, and a lot of people complained about WinMe too.

IIRC, it worked fine only when using the official drivers from the Realtek website for WinMe. Retroweb drivers show differences for Win95/95B/98/Me.

Reply 58176 of 58181, by Thandor

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luckybob wrote on Today, 01:43:
MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 20:10:

I didn't know Sapphire did a passive 9800! 😮

I'm really into passives and that is the greatest card I can imagine.

its actually a 3rd party heatsink. Made by Thermaltake as memory serves me. In this case, Sapphire just bought a bunch of (likely) overstock coolers and dropped this 'special edition'.

It’s based on the Zalman ZM80C-HP. Quite a nice cooling solution. Zalman also offered an optional low noise fan that mounted on the side.

Not sure if it’s overstock since it has the Sapphire logo on the heatsink and on the aluminium brackets on the side/rear of the card 😀.

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Reply 58177 of 58181, by MattRocks

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luckybob wrote on Today, 01:43:
MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 20:10:

I didn't know Sapphire did a passive 9800! 😮

I'm really into passives and that is the greatest card I can imagine.

its actually a 3rd party heatsink. Made by Thermaltake as memory serves me. In this case, Sapphire just bought a bunch of (likely) overstock coolers and dropped this 'special edition'.

Even as a 'special edition', I wish it was in my collection.

I have a regular 9800Pro. Any ideas where I might find a cooler with Sapphire branding?

Attached original packaging. Oh my. 15€ is just not acceptable! I am deflating.. 😀

Reply 58178 of 58181, by Minutemanqvs

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AndrettiGTO wrote on Today, 02:15:

Wondering how it is with slot clearances

Like this. One slot "above" and one slut under the card. The next PCI card barely makes it.

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Searching anything Nexgen, PM me if you have one. Also ATI Rage 128 PCI cards.

Reply 58179 of 58181, by Minutemanqvs

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MattRocks wrote on Today, 14:50:
Even as a 'special edition', I wish it was in my collection. […]
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luckybob wrote on Today, 01:43:
MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 20:10:

I didn't know Sapphire did a passive 9800! 😮

I'm really into passives and that is the greatest card I can imagine.

its actually a 3rd party heatsink. Made by Thermaltake as memory serves me. In this case, Sapphire just bought a bunch of (likely) overstock coolers and dropped this 'special edition'.

Even as a 'special edition', I wish it was in my collection.

I have a regular 9800Pro. Any ideas where I might find a cooler with Sapphire branding?

Attached original packaging. Oh my. 15€ is just not acceptable! I am deflating.. 😀

It's from my local thrift store...I also got a voodoo 3 3500 and 2 GA-5AX for the same amount over the years. They just sell any "computer card that looks big" for this price. Memory sticks are usually 3€.

Searching anything Nexgen, PM me if you have one. Also ATI Rage 128 PCI cards.