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Hi there. I am in the pre-planning phase to get myself a WinPXP retro gaming system suitable for the years 2002 to 2006/2007

A rather pivotal time, which makes picking the proper parts a bit difficult. I am interested in getting a system built around a fast Cor2duo CPU chipset. Not sure which one would be the best mainboard/chipset for gaming, what would you recommend, and geforce 7 card. Is the geforce 7 a solid pick?

So far so good, but is muli core cpu the right pick for a system that should work for games catered for a single core cpu only? For 2005, 2006 and 2007 games a dual core cpu makes lot of sense to get out most of the games.

But how about the years 2002 to 2004? Is the single core performce oft intel core 2duo 7 series fast enough for these games, or would I be better off with a ultra fast single core cpu in general?

Please feel free to share your thoughts and recommendations.

Reply 1 of 28, by Shagittarius

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Get the fastest Core2 your MB can support. The Core2 duos are going to be faster clock/clock than any single core CPU just due to architecture improvements.

I would recommend if you are not going for period correctness to get a GTX 580, these go for about the same price as anything prior 35.00 or so, and will be enough to do anything your XP rig could want and leave you the power to add extra eye candy too, certainly if not going for period correct I wouldn't go under a GTX 280. If you do care about period correctness go for a GTX 8800, or 8800 Ultra.

For MB , look for features you want with one of these chipsets : P35, X38, P45, X48

Reply 2 of 28, by Shponglefan

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Before deciding on a platform, what type of monitor / resolutions were you planning to use? And what are your expectations for performance?

If you're planning on a 4:3 display and resolutions, then a Core2Duo system will probably be fine for that era. If you're going wide-screen (i.e. 16:9 or 16:10) at a faster refresh rate (75Hz+) then you might want to consider a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge system.

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Reply 3 of 28, by JoyfulTechnology

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Shponglefan wrote on 2026-02-06, 22:49:

Before deciding on a platform, what type of monitor / resolutions were you planning to use? And what are your expectations for performance?

If you're planning on a 4:3 display and resolutions, then a Core2Duo system will probably be fine for that era. If you're going wide-screen (i.e. 16:9 or 16:10) at a faster refresh rate (75Hz+) then you might want to consider a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge system.

This. You have to remember that we had different (lower) expectations of our systems back in the day...60fps wasn't a given yet. A modern gamer might be happier with a system a couple of years later than the games you're actually planning on playing.

This was, incidentally, the period when I built my first gaming PC...a Core 2 Duo E6750 with an 8800 GTS and two whole gigs of DDR2 in 2007 with a 22" 1680x1050 LCD display. Not that I particularly recommend that particular configuration (I had no idea what I was doing and was a starving college student), but that'll give you an idea of what gamers were working with back in the day.

Reply 4 of 28, by gamefan_851

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@all thanks a lot for the recommendations and sorry for the late reply.

Shponglefan wrote on 2026-02-06, 22:49:

Before deciding on a platform, what type of monitor / resolutions were you planning to use? And what are your expectations for performance?

If you're planning on a 4:3 display and resolutions, then a Core2Duo system will probably be fine for that era. If you're going wide-screen (i.e. 16:9 or 16:10) at a faster refresh rate (75Hz+) then you might want to consider a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge system.

This a very good point. I do not want go in the full hd range since I am going to play on an old 19 inch vga crt monitor.

I think fort hat purpose core duo system should be sufficient?

Reply 5 of 28, by Halofiber86

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Hi, I have just built myself a machine specifically dedicated to run Max Payne 3 on Windows XP 32-bit . I'm using a E8400 CoreDuo (which is 65W) and cool. The good people here at Vogons kindly advised me to get a backplate by all means, and I did that as well. Here's my tread about the whole experience, maybe you'll get some ideas for your project there: Core 2 Duo vs Core 2 Quad under Windows XP 32

If I were you, I would probably stay away from single-core processors, like Prescotts, they seem to be super hot for no good reason. And if you stick with 32 bit XP, you do not need more than 4Gbs of memory.

It seems that you prefer some power-hungry video cards. In this case I would look for the full-size ATX motherboard. My GA-G41M board is micro ATX, and now that the two PCI slots are populated with Sound Blaster and a modem, there is not much space for a large video card in the PCI-Express. Maybe you will have little use for a fax/modem, but I think you may require external sound card for gaming, and even with that the space could become sort of crammed up.

And you may want to check with shader model is required for your games. Series 7 only support Shaders 3.0 as far as I know.

Reply 6 of 28, by gamefan_851

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Halofiber86 wrote on 2026-02-09, 17:01:
Hi, I have just built myself a machine specifically dedicated to run Max Payne 3 on Windows XP 32-bit . I'm using a E8400 CoreDu […]
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Hi, I have just built myself a machine specifically dedicated to run Max Payne 3 on Windows XP 32-bit . I'm using a E8400 CoreDuo (which is 65W) and cool. The good people here at Vogons kindly advised me to get a backplate by all means, and I did that as well. Here's my tread about the whole experience, maybe you'll get some ideas for your project there: Core 2 Duo vs Core 2 Quad under Windows XP 32

If I were you, I would probably stay away from single-core processors, like Prescotts, they seem to be super hot for no good reason. And if you stick with 32 bit XP, you do not need more than 4Gbs of memory.

It seems that you prefer some power-hungry video cards. In this case I would look for the full-size ATX motherboard. My GA-G41M board is micro ATX, and now that the two PCI slots are populated with Sound Blaster and a modem, there is not much space for a large video card in the PCI-Express. Maybe you will have little use for a fax/modem, but I think you may require external sound card for gaming, and even with that the space could become sort of crammed up.

And you may want to check with shader model is required for your games. Series 7 only support Shaders 3.0 as far as I know.

Thanks for your recommendations and for the link to your own thread. It contains some interesitng information that is for sure.

Also thx for the info about the mainboard. I have no use for the modem indeed but I will certainly use a sound card. Without a decent sound card a retro rig does not feel complete. I think I will get another creative card for the winxp system. For my win98 se gaming rig I use a soundblaster life.

Reply 7 of 28, by Fish3r

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Geforce 7 cards really don't perform well once you get into games from 2006/2007 and will hold back even some older dual cores like the 939 athlons. That plus bumpgate makes them not really worth it unless you're going for a very specific system.

Reply 8 of 28, by TheIpex

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My two cents:

Forget about anything older than the GeForce 200 series. Unless you're an absolute stickler for period correctness it's just not worth it.

A Wolfdale dual-core with a GTX 275/280/285 and Soundblaster X-Fi would make for a pretty potent XP system.

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Reply 9 of 28, by Shponglefan

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gamefan_851 wrote on 2026-02-09, 12:11:

This a very good point. I do not want go in the full hd range since I am going to play on an old 19 inch vga crt monitor.

I think fort hat purpose core duo system should be sufficient?

Yes, if you're gaming on a 19" CRT then a Core2Duo will likely be fine.

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Reply 10 of 28, by gamefan_851

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Shponglefan wrote on 2026-02-10, 01:10:
gamefan_851 wrote on 2026-02-09, 12:11:

This is a very good point. I do not want to go in the full hd range since I am going to play on an old 19 inch vga crt monitor.

I think fort hat purpose core duo system should be sufficient?

Yes, if you're gaming on a 19" CRT then a Core2Duo will likely be fine.

Thanks for the info, sounds good. Should I specifically look for a Core 2 Duo in the E8000 series, or could it also be an E6000 or E7000 series?

About the motherboard: I’m already in negotiations to get an ASUS P5LD2 board at a good price. Does anyone here have experience with that board/chipset?

Reply 11 of 28, by RandomStranger

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I wouldn't rule out fast single core CPUs (like the Sempron 145 for example) depending on what sort of experience do you want to recreate. Some pre-2005 games don't play well with multi-core CPUs. There are fixes of course. There are also games that don't play well out of the box on anything more recent than Geforce 7.

On the upper end, you can just get an Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge i3 with a GT740 GDDR5 (GTX650 rebrand) or a GTX750 series graphics card for pocket change and disable HT in the bios if 4 threads gives you troubles.

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Reply 12 of 28, by Shiftyy

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Yeah stay away from the 7xxx or 8xxx series if you can. Bumpgate.

Reply 13 of 28, by Shponglefan

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gamefan_851 wrote on 2026-02-11, 12:05:

Thanks for the info, sounds good. Should I specifically look for a Core 2 Duo in the E8000 series, or could it also be an E6000 or E7000 series?

I would go for an E8600. It's the fastest option.

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Reply 14 of 28, by SScorpio

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If you aren't trying to build period correct, I really recommend going to LGA 1155 and getting an i3 or i5. You get a big performance bump, and prices are still extremely low due to there being so many used in boring office PCs.

But just adding a mid range GTX 600 or 700 card and a Sound Blaster X-Fi. And you just unlocked everything you need to play any XP era game.

The jump from Core2 Quad to an i7 Sandybridge was gigantic back in the day when I did it. And my currently XP PC that I'm extremely happy with is an i5 3550, GTX 750ti 2GB, and SB X-Fi.

Core2 is fine for later XP if they cost that much less. But around here the i-series can actually end up cheaper just due to how much supply there is. They are rock solid, and run cool with many modern coolers still being compatible.

Reply 15 of 28, by Shagittarius

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I avoided mentioning the i5/i7 route simply because of the potential for added driver gymnastics to get them to run with xp. I agree though, if you are not afraid of config work, and don't care about period correctness, there is no reason not to get the very best. If the price is similar, why not grab a 980ti for the video board and put it on xp by modifying the 960 drivers as well.

I'm perfectly happy with my setup but if I was building today I'd probably go that route too.

Reply 16 of 28, by SScorpio

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Shagittarius wrote on 2026-02-12, 15:45:

I avoided mentioning the i5/i7 route simply because of the potential for added driver gymnastics to get them to run with xp. I agree though, if you are not afraid of config work, and don't care about period correctness, there is no reason not to get the very best. If the price is similar, why not grab a 980ti for the video board and put it on xp by modifying the 960 drivers as well.

I'm perfectly happy with my setup but if I was building today I'd probably go that route too.

Up through Ivybridge is officially supported on XP. I just grabbed the drivers of XP off Asus' site for my motherboard, and they just installed normally.

The 980ti can be made to work with modded drivers. But no games require the performance. The 750/750ti is really the sweet spot as they are 1/2 the price of the 980ti and they sip power. Something that's not having a ton of voltage injected into it and running hot will potentially have a longer life. The 750ti is rated at 60W is which less than a PCIe slot provides, making it compatible with even low end business oriented PCs.

Reply 17 of 28, by Shagittarius

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Except for really demanding stuff like Crysis if you want to max it out. Otherwise 99% of all games should max out pretty easily with a 750ti. I've never cared about wattage use myself.

Reply 18 of 28, by gamefan_851

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Shponglefan wrote on 2026-02-12, 13:25:
gamefan_851 wrote on 2026-02-11, 12:05:

Thanks for the info, sounds good. Should I specifically look for a Core 2 Duo in the E8000 series, or could it also be an E6000 or E7000 series?

I would go for an E8600. It's the fastest option.

Thanks a lot for the recommendation. Yes, the e8600 was the dream cpu back then, I was not able to get. So getting it now would be really cool.

But somehow I'm torn between 2 extremes. On the one hand, having core2duo rig with GeForce 8000 series would be awesome. But the 8800 series does not seem to have any issues.

The bump gate issues were already mentioned here

Shiftyy wrote on 2026-02-12, 03:43:

Yeah, stay away from the 7xxx or 8xxx series if you can. Bumpgate.

Another point is that having something peroid correct would be cool but I am not dead set on period correct. something more modern

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If you aren't trying to build period correct, I really recommend going to LGA 1155 and getting an i3 or i5. You get a big perfor […]
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If you aren't trying to build period correct, I really recommend going to LGA 1155 and getting an i3 or i5. You get a big performance bump, and prices are still extremely low due to there being so many used in boring office PCs.

But just adding a mid range GTX 600 or 700 card and a Sound Blaster X-Fi. And you just unlocked everything you need to play any XP era game.

The jump from Core2 Quad to an i7 Sandybridge was gigantic back in the day when I did it. And my currently XP PC that I'm extremely happy with is an i5 3550, GTX 750ti 2GB, and SB X-Fi.

Core2 is fine for later XP if they cost that much less. But around here the i-series can actually end up cheaper just due to how much supply there is. They are rock solid, and run cool with many modern coolers still being compatible.

also sounds like a decent plan.

the only question remains how compatible such rig would be for early winxp games. Games from 2005 onwards should run like dream on such machine but how about earlier xp games from 2002 to 2004. This was still the single core area of gaming and maybe some renering featuers these old games support could lead to some troubles?

Anothe queestion of the sound blaster xfi cards. i agree that such card is the top pic for my rig. it is already on my wishlist. But there seem to ber more versions of he xifi cards? Are all versions equally good?

Reply 19 of 28, by SScorpio

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gamefan_851 wrote on 2026-02-13, 13:22:

also sounds like a decent plan.

the only question remains how compatible such rig would be for early winxp games. Games from 2005 onwards should run like dream on such machine but how about earlier xp games from 2002 to 2004. This was still the single core area of gaming and maybe some renering featuers these old games support could lead to some troubles?

Anothe queestion of the sound blaster xfi cards. i agree that such card is the top pic for my rig. it is already on my wishlist. But there seem to ber more versions of he xifi cards? Are all versions equally good?

Stay away from the "Xtreme Audio" versions of the X-Fi. Those were fake budget X-Fi cards that use the same processor of the Audigy SE. Other X-Fi cards differed by how much X-RAM they have. Supposedly this can hold samples rather than streaming from system memory, it's not really something the average person would ever notice. You also need to avoid the Titanium HD, it was the latest X-Fi card and changed a few things and its drivers don't support XP.

Any multi core CPU will have the same issues if an early game misbehaves on a dual or higher core system. Some games are fine with dual core and have issues with more as well. Just setting processor affinity to limit core access in Windows and they aren't a problem. You can setup a shortcut to a batch file to set this on game launch to automate it.

Newer GPUs could have less support for older versions of Direct3D. If you were looking at the GeForce 8 series, it's possible there might be some Direct3D 8/8.1 games that don't have issues versus later cards. But Direct3D 9/9c support will be solid. The big issue with XP as a whole is that wrappers to fix old versions of Direct3D need 10 or later which XP doesn't support. I look at XP as a DirectX 9 system, and run older things on my Win9X rig.

Overall, most games will work without issue. But some could have issues. Some might even run into high clock speed issues on the CPU. Or an issue down to a certain GPU, or motherboard chipset. The more well known games will normally work without problem, but if your favorite games doesn't run, it stinks.