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Pentium 200 extremely slow

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Reply 160 of 165, by Shponglefan

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theelf wrote on 2026-01-01, 21:55:

this is fullscreen, no life or amo bar, minus two bar, is running at i think, 320x152

320x152 is 320x200 is 76%, if you get 34fps at fullscreen you will get more or less 42-45fps at 320x152

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Okay, I understand what you're referring to now. You're talking about removing the HUD via the screen size or viewsize setting.

You're right that in Phil's benchmark he has both HUD status bars displayed which is the viewsize = 100 setting. Setting viewsize = 120 removes both HUD elements.

I did that and re-ran the benchmarks:

demo1, no HUD, 320x200: 39.9 FPS
demo3, no HUD, 320x200: 37.2 FPS

That's 5 FPS slower than with the HUD enabled.

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Reply 161 of 165, by Shponglefan

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Señor Ventura wrote on 2026-01-03, 18:31:

Upgrading hardware appart (motherboard M51, M63, M71, although is confusing to find one), i would begin for updating the bios... i have the bios image, the problem is how to flash it.

Is the bios stored in a removable EPROM chip?

If it is, one option would be getting a hardware chip programmer and using that.

Pentium 4 Multi-OS Build
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Reply 162 of 165, by Señor Ventura

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Shponglefan wrote on 2026-01-03, 21:01:
Señor Ventura wrote on 2026-01-03, 18:31:

Upgrading hardware appart (motherboard M51, M63, M71, although is confusing to find one), i would begin for updating the bios... i have the bios image, the problem is how to flash it.

Is the bios stored in a removable EPROM chip?

If it is, one option would be getting a hardware chip programmer and using that.

Seems like a floppy disk is needed. The programmer is for bricked bios, in those cases. I will try to search that floppy image tomorrow.

Reply 163 of 165, by Señor Ventura

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About 4fps with need for speed iii, Do i remember wrong believing this game must perform something between 20 and 30fps?.

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Señor Ventura wrote on 2026-02-12, 23:03:

About 4fps with need for speed iii, Do i remember wrong believing this game must perform something between 20 and 30fps?.

Toward the end of this thread there is some discussion of the game being very slow on a Pentium 233Mhz, and then suddenly not being quite so slow. It could be a bug of some kind. Either way, it doesn't seem like a Pentium 200 and a Voodoo 1 is the ideal setup for this game, with most recommendations being a Pentium III 500+ and a Voodoo2 12MB. If you turn the graphics settings down a lot does it run better?

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 165 of 165, by Señor Ventura

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-02-12, 23:52:
Señor Ventura wrote on 2026-02-12, 23:03:

About 4fps with need for speed iii, Do i remember wrong believing this game must perform something between 20 and 30fps?.

Toward the end of this thread there is some discussion of the game being very slow on a Pentium 233Mhz, and then suddenly not being quite so slow. It could be a bug of some kind. Either way, it doesn't seem like a Pentium 200 and a Voodoo 1 is the ideal setup for this game, with most recommendations being a Pentium III 500+ and a Voodoo2 12MB. If you turn the graphics settings down a lot does it run better?

That's the thing, from 800x600 to... 512x384?, the difference is almost inappreciable, and i can't set the alpha setting (stands "shadowed").

I have installed the iceman drivers 3.01.00, and glide2x.dll is v2.48. I have one glide2x in c:/windows/system, and i copy&pasted near the NFIII.exe in the folder's game, but... nothing...

Clearly the voodoo is running cause there is no lack of perspective correction, and i remember playing this then with a pentium 133 + voodoo 1 smooth enough, but... 4fps with p200 + cache + voodoo 1, and then i see this:

Pentium 200 + voodoo 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc7ploo7d0I&t=205s

Pentium 233 mmx + voodo 1 with 6MB of ram:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2E41z850-U

Pentium 120 + voodoo 1 (emulated):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0dkK8SQcv8

edit: thanks for the link!.