I was curious and try, with an iso I found.
The initial version was 1.03, and in software mode it crashed the computer when I tried to change resolution. But launched first at 320x200.
Black screen ---> hard reset.
After applying the 1.11 patch, it runs correctly when I change for 640x480 or 800x600.
Work also correctly in OpenGL with a Radeon 8500, Athlon XP, Win98SE.

I tried the same thing on another computer, K6-2 550 / TNT2 M64 / Voodoo2.
This time, even with the 1.11 patch the game crash the computer if I try to change the resolution ...
I also crash if I try OpenGL with the TNT2.
But it works with the Voodoo 2 !
Both use DirectX 8.1

Conclusion : no idea 😀

There are more options in the file h2b.bat :

1@echo off
2if x%1==xfast goto fast
3if x%1==xsafe goto safe
4if x%1==xverysafe goto verysafe
5if x%1==xfastvid goto fastvid
6if x%1==xfastsnd goto fastsnd
7if x%1==xmax goto max
8
9echo -------------------------------------------------------------------
10echo Options for running Hexen 2:
11echo  h2b max:      all features on, but doesn't work on all systems
12echo  h2b fast:     maximum speed, but doesn't work on all systems
13echo  h2b fastvid:  maximum video speed, but safer, probably slower sound
14echo  h2b fastsnd:  maximum sound speed, but safer, probably slower video
15echo  h2b safe:     very likely to run, but may be slower
16echo  h2b verysafe: almost sure to run, but probably slower, and no sound
17echo -------------------------------------------------------------------
18goto done
19
20:max
21h2 -dinput %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
22goto done
23
24:fast
25h2 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
26goto done
27
28:fastvid
29h2 -wavonly %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
30goto done
31
32:fastsnd
33h2 -nodirectdraw -nowindirect %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
34goto done
35
36:safe
37h2 -nodirectdraw -nowindirect -wavonly %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
38goto done
39
40:verysafe
41h2 -dibonly -nosound -nojoy %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
42:done

nali wrote on Today, 07:09:

I was curious and try, with an iso I found. The initial version was 1.03, and in software mode it crashed the computer when I tr […]
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I was curious and try, with an iso I found.
The initial version was 1.03, and in software mode it crashed the computer when I tried to change resolution. But launched first at 320x200.
Black screen ---> hard reset.
After applying the 1.11 patch, it runs correctly when I change for 640x480 or 800x600.
Work also correctly in OpenGL with a Radeon 8500, Athlon XP, Win98SE.

I tried the same thing on another computer, K6-2 550 / TNT2 M64 / Voodoo2.
This time, even with the 1.11 patch the game crash the computer if I try to change the resolution ...
I also crash if I try OpenGL with the TNT2.
But it works with the Voodoo 2 !
Both use DirectX 8.1

Conclusion : no idea 😀

There are more options in the file h2b.bat :

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1@echo off
2if x%1==xfast goto fast
3if x%1==xsafe goto safe
4if x%1==xverysafe goto verysafe
5if x%1==xfastvid goto fastvid
6if x%1==xfastsnd goto fastsnd
7if x%1==xmax goto max
8
9echo -------------------------------------------------------------------
10echo Options for running Hexen 2:
11echo  h2b max:      all features on, but doesn't work on all systems
12echo  h2b fast:     maximum speed, but doesn't work on all systems
13echo  h2b fastvid:  maximum video speed, but safer, probably slower sound
14echo  h2b fastsnd:  maximum sound speed, but safer, probably slower video
15echo  h2b safe:     very likely to run, but may be slower
16echo  h2b verysafe: almost sure to run, but probably slower, and no sound
17echo -------------------------------------------------------------------
18goto done
19
20:max
21h2 -dinput %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
22goto done
23
24:fast
25h2 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
26goto done
27
28:fastvid
29h2 -wavonly %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
30goto done
31
32:fastsnd
33h2 -nodirectdraw -nowindirect %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
34goto done
35
36:safe
37h2 -nodirectdraw -nowindirect -wavonly %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
38goto done
39
40:verysafe
41h2 -dibonly -nosound -nojoy %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
42:done

Thanks for taking the time out to experiment. 😀 It is a weird one. The only way I got the OpenGL version to work was by removing the opengl32.dll file. That was giving me a Glide2x.dll error whenever I tried to launch. But the strange thing is, when I installed it the first time and removed that file, I don't think it made any difference. I still got the error. Or an error of some kind. Uninstalled and reinstalled and removing the file worked!

But yeah, it seems to play (or load) a bit better with Voodoo cards. It's fussy with Geforce cards, apparently. I think from Geforce 2 onwards...?

I totally missed those options. Thanks. I'll give them a try a bit later and see. I forgot to mention I'm using the latest update - 1.11.

For those percentages, do I need to put -dinput %2 or just 2?

Okay, just tried the game in 86Box. Admittedly, that is using a Voodoo 3, but still... One notable difference I noticed right away, was after double clicking on Setup, it plays the intro movie before the setup wizard begins. It doesn't appear to do that on my main 98 system though. The other difference is, after the game is installed, all the icons have pictures. On my 98 system, they're all white empty boxes. And yeah, software mode loads up without a problem. Without the patch. So I'm wondering if there's something not quite right with my CD image of the disc. I'll have to try reinstalling it from the physical CD and see what happens.

Hmm. The issue is certainly related to the CD image. I noticed there's an outer ring, which indicates it has some sort of copy protection. However, I've tried making an image using ImgBurn on my main PC, I tried mounting that image in 86Box, and it worked properly. The intro movie plays when you double click on Setup. Tried it on my 98 PC and it comes up with the same box saying to insert the CD. Tried making an image using CloneCD, which worked for other copy protected CDs, like The Longest Journey's, but the same issue happens - please insert the CD. 🙁

DustyShinigami wrote on Today, 18:43:

Hmm. The issue is certainly related to the CD image. I noticed there's an outer ring, which indicates it has some sort of copy protection. However, I've tried making an image using ImgBurn on my main PC, I tried mounting that image in 86Box, and it worked properly. The intro movie plays when you double click on Setup. Tried it on my 98 PC and it comes up with the same box saying to insert the CD. Tried making an image using CloneCD, which worked for other copy protected CDs, like The Longest Journey's, but the same issue happens - please insert the CD. 🙁

Not sure if you've accounted for this, but I think this game uses Redbook audio for music (much like Quake and Quake II), so there are actual CD audio tracks on there in addition to game data. Those could account for separate tracks you see on the CD, and it could explain why your image has problems. I don't have any experience making or using images from mixed mode CDs however, so you may need to do further research to figure out what to do about it.

Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 19:18:

DustyShinigami wrote on Today, 18:43:

Hmm. The issue is certainly related to the CD image. I noticed there's an outer ring, which indicates it has some sort of copy protection. However, I've tried making an image using ImgBurn on my main PC, I tried mounting that image in 86Box, and it worked properly. The intro movie plays when you double click on Setup. Tried it on my 98 PC and it comes up with the same box saying to insert the CD. Tried making an image using CloneCD, which worked for other copy protected CDs, like The Longest Journey's, but the same issue happens - please insert the CD. 🙁

Not sure if you've accounted for this, but I think this game uses Redbook audio for music (much like Quake and Quake II), so there are actual CD audio tracks on there in addition to game data. Those could account for separate tracks you see on the CD, and it could explain why your image has problems. I don't have any experience making or using images from mixed mode CDs however, so you may need to do further research to figure out what to do about it.

Oh yeah, I'm well aware. I checked 98's CD player to see if the game CD had audio tracks and it does, so I made sure to create a BIN and CUE image, but it still doesn't think the CD is fully present and asks for it. The game will install, but I'm not sure if it fully installs it. But then the OpenGL version works with audio tracks. Just not the software version, the intro movie, and all the different program icons in the Start Menu are empty white boxes instead of icons.

The only copy protection Hexen II has is that it checks for a registry key that the installer makes. If it ain't there, the menu system will be locked out (but game still starts). Nothing disc based. Only the intro movie is on the autorun

leileilol wrote on Today, 21:09:

The only copy protection Hexen II has is that it checks for a registry key that the installer makes. If it ain't there, the menu system will be locked out (but game still starts). Nothing disc based. Only the intro movie is on the autorun

Ahh, I see. So I wonder if installing the game with the physical CD, so it makes a registry key, and then loading the game up with the CD image, would work...? But when you say the menu system will be locked out, do you mean the installer menu? Because that works for me with the image. And from there I can install.