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First post, by swaaye

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I threw together an Athlon XP machine last year and planned to use Win2K to play some games. Not entirely unexpectedly, some games would not install because they don't support Win2K/NT. One was NFS High Stakes. I spent a few hours looking into the Microsoft game compatibility updates for 2K but ended up just installing Windows XP which includes them anyway.

Still, I think it would be great to use Win2K instead because it's leaner. Does anyone here have insight into how to get WIn2K fully updated for game compatibility?

Reply 1 of 12, by auron

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from a quick search i'm seeing an app compatibility update from feb 2001, and SP4 mentioning compatibility improvements. past that, not sure what you can expect beyond the usual indiviudal game fix searching. maybe something later from the windows update list?

ntcompatible was/is an old resource with a lot of games on there, but probably only worth browsing via archive now as they cluttered up the site by now.

Reply 2 of 12, by swaaye

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Yeah good points. I do remember ntcompatible now that you mentioned it.

Reply 3 of 12, by Matchstick

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I ran win2k from 99 to 2012 (I was a beta tester) on my main machine which was also a Athlon XP, never had any issues running any games in that time period.

As NFS High Stakes is a 99 release it should have no issue running on 2k.

We would need to have more specifics as to the nature of the install error.

On cursory review... the issue seems to be the installer itself not working, and not an issue with the game running, itself.

https://github.com/jkmartindale/NFS-High-Stakes-Installer

Reply 4 of 12, by swaaye

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With this thread I was just curious if anyone had more experience with these app compatibility updates that I read about for Win2k. I already had SP4. There seems to be some unofficial updates for it but I lost interest in trying to dig up old stuff. XP doesn't have any problems with the game so I was thinking perhaps XP's additional game workarounds had been potentially backported and that would be useful for lots of other games too.

Reply 5 of 12, by auron

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full list of game fixes, along with a working download link: https://web.archive.org/web/20010602163638/ht … pat/default.asp

if you go further in the archive, they replaced this page with a message saying that these fixes are now in SP3, so there is most likely no point in installing it in that case. also NFS2 and 3 are in there, but not high stakes, so it was probably too much of a headache for them to bother with despite being newer, and the fixes that are out there are probably the only way to go with win2k.

Reply 7 of 12, by PTherapist

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Are you installing the game from the original disc (or disc image)?

If so, sometimes it's not just the OS causing the issues, it's the copy protection on the discs. EA games of that period were notorious for the copy protection causing issues with Windows 2000 and above.

Resorting to piracy and using NoCD cracks can often solve the issues. I had to do that with a few games for my 2000+ PC builds, was the only way to get them running.

Reply 8 of 12, by twiz11

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PTherapist wrote on 2026-02-21, 21:17:

Are you installing the game from the original disc (or disc image)?

If so, sometimes it's not just the OS causing the issues, it's the copy protection on the discs. EA games of that period were notorious for the copy protection causing issues with Windows 2000 and above.

Resorting to piracy and using NoCD cracks can often solve the issues. I had to do that with a few games for my 2000+ PC builds, was the only way to get them running.

nope dont do it, just dont bother and petition EA to bring their old games to GOG if thats possible, otherwise dont ruin your machine legally and mechanically by piracy or those damn nocd cracks.

Reply 9 of 12, by Minutemanqvs

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swaaye wrote on 2026-02-20, 20:14:

Have you ever tried the unofficial SP5 / 5.1?

It sounds like it might be safe.
https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32023

A quick note on that, if you install it and then also subscribe your system to something like legacyupdate.net it might break your system. It broke mine by mixing incompatibles file versions (it reinstalled SP4 Rollup1). So just chose one path and don’t mix différent update paths.

Searching anything Nexgen, PM me if you have one. Also ATI Rage 128 PCI cards.

Reply 10 of 12, by Matchstick

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twiz11 wrote on 2026-02-21, 22:57:

nope dont do it, just dont bother and petition EA to bring their old games to GOG if thats possible, otherwise dont ruin your machine legally and mechanically by piracy or those damn nocd cracks.

PFFFT what stupid FUD... You do realize that GOG does make use of those NOCD warez patches quite often.

Reply 11 of 12, by twiz11

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Matchstick wrote on 2026-02-23, 09:49:
twiz11 wrote on 2026-02-21, 22:57:

nope dont do it, just dont bother and petition EA to bring their old games to GOG if thats possible, otherwise dont ruin your machine legally and mechanically by piracy or those damn nocd cracks.

PFFFT what stupid FUD... You do realize that GOG does make use of those NOCD warez patches quite often.

but thats legal and above board, not getting them from gcw..

Reply 12 of 12, by PTherapist

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twiz11 wrote on 2026-02-23, 12:33:
Matchstick wrote on 2026-02-23, 09:49:
twiz11 wrote on 2026-02-21, 22:57:

nope dont do it, just dont bother and petition EA to bring their old games to GOG if thats possible, otherwise dont ruin your machine legally and mechanically by piracy or those damn nocd cracks.

PFFFT what stupid FUD... You do realize that GOG does make use of those NOCD warez patches quite often.

but thats legal and above board, not getting them from gcw..

If I already legally own a game and it doesn't run, I'm going to do whatever it takes to get it running. If that means resorting to piracy, then that sucks for EA for making that necessary due to their silly DRM.

I'm certainly not going to be buying the games again from the likes of GOG, just to get the same thing a free/illegal NoCD patch can solve on my existing copy.