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First post, by Golffies

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Hello,

On the GA-P43-ES3G motherboard (LGA775 socket, P43 Northbridge in DDR2, ICH10 Southbridge), there are probably no third-party drivers for components not originally recognised by Windows 98 SE. The HCDP (i.e. LBA48), SATA and AHCI patches by Rudolph Loew are the exception, and allow the 6 SATA ports to be used.

Here are the components for which Windows 98 SE either cannot install a driver or cannot resolve a resource conflict:

  • IDE controller JMicron JMB368 : VEN_197B DEV_2368
  • Gigabit Ethernet controller Realtek RTL8111C : VEN_10EC DEV_8168
  • USB 2.0 controller Intel ICH10 EHCI : VEN_8086 DEV_3A3A

The USB 1.1 controller Intel ICH10 UHCI is supported correctly : VEN_8086 DEV_3A34 to 3A39

At the moment, my concern is with the JMicron IDE controller. My boot disk is a CompactFlash volume, connected via a simple mechanical adapter to this JMB368 IDE controller. Windows starts up in Virtual Mode I/O (BIOS int 13h), and then ‘something’ prevents it from switching to its 32-bit ESDI_506.PDR driver to access the CompactFlash. Once the desktop is displayed, all access to the C: volume continues to be done in 16-bit MS-DOS compatible mode. That's a bummer.

According to msinfo32, error code 29 prevents Windows from using the JMB368 VEN_197B DEV_2368. The issues raised by JMB368 are not new to our forum. Curiously, the name JMicron's controller bears here is ‘Standard Dual PCI Sata Controller’. msinfo32 also reports that an ACPI\*PNP0C02 component is unusable due to a resource conflict (error code 15). No further details are provided. Based on these observations, Gemini proposes the following theory:

The link with the ACPI conflict: It is very common for the BIOS to attempt to ‘hide’ the JMicron controller behind an ACPI layer so that it appears to be a standard (Legacy) IDE port. The *PNP0C02 (Code 15) conflict is probably due to the JMicron chip attempting to appropriate interrupts IRQ 14 or 15 (the classic IDE ports) when the Intel ICH10 chipset has already ‘ghost’ reserved them for its own SATA channels.

But it doesn't stop there; it also offers me the following workaround, in the form of an INF file:

Why can this fix Code 15?
By associating the ID VEN_197B&DEV_2368 with the section NO_DRV (No Driver), we are telling Windows: ‘I know what this is, it's a legitimate system component, don't try to stick an exotic driver on it that will conflict with ACPI’. This often transforms a ‘Device with error’ into a passive ‘System device’, freeing up resources so that the IDE driver can work in peace.

Here is the code. Is this an appropriate way to help Windows load its 32-bit ESDI_506.PDR driver to handle the CompactFlash connected to the JMicron controller?

[Version]
Signature="$CHICAGO$"
Class=System
Provider=%MFG%

[Manufacturer]
%MFG%=Intel_ICH10

; --- Storage Section (Passive ID) ---
"Intel(R) ICH10 SATA AHCI Controller (Identification)"=NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A22
"JMicron JMB368 IDE Controller (Identification)"=NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2368
"JMicron JMB368 IDE Controller (MF)"=NO_DRV, MF\VEN_197B&DEV_2368

[NO_DRV]
AddReg=Common_AddReg

[Common_AddReg]
; No specific binary binding - Identification only

[Strings]
MFG="Gemini AI Support"

Thank you for your advice!

Reply 1 of 3, by overclockwise

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I have this exact motherboard and I have installed Win98SE onto a 64GB SATA SSD using Win98 Quick Install.

Here's some notes:
I disabled "Hyper-Threading" in the BIOS so only one CPU is in use.
All CPU features are disabled, NX bit, C1E, EIST, etc.
XMP is disabled
1GB Stick in the first channel. I'm not sure Win98 will benefit from dual channel as one is fast enough.
SATA is set to IDE/Legacy mode.
All other peripherals are disabled (COM, Parallel, Audio.
HDD is a 64GB SATA on the SATA 0 header.
PCI 5500FX 256MB VGA. BIOS Is set to initialize PCI VGA first.

I installed Win98 Quick Install via a USB stick therefore USB must be enabled during the install. The problem is when install is finished, you must disable all USB via BIOS. This is because the USB Ports on the board has 4 root hubs and Win98 will show an error on all of them because there's not enough IRQs for Win98 to handle. So right now, I'm using it with no USB. I'm using PS/2 inputs in the meantime and I'm using a PCI 3COM 100Mbit NIC to grab files from my NAS (RetroNAS) via FTP.

I have 2 possible solutions to the USB problem:
1) Since the board can't selectively disable which USB root, I will try to disable each root via device manager. If that doesn't work,
2) Get a PCI USB card that's known to work with Win98.

Reply 2 of 3, by overclockwise

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Update:

I attached an IDE CDROM to the ATA port (the JMicron) and it worked right out the box with whatever drivers came with Win98 Quick Install. Device manager shows that it’s using the SweetLow drivers.

I also enabled the onboard NIC and it also worked out of the box. It seems like it’s using an actual RealTek driver but its probably modded for Win98.

Reply 3 of 3, by overclockwise

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Update 2: (Last)

USB is now working. In the device manager, I had to click on all of the ones with the yellow exclamation mark and run "Hardware Troubleshooter". It will ask to remove COM1, COM2, and the SMBUS devices and I clicked okay on all of them. When I rebooted the PC, it saw my USB Flash drive and it worked great at 2.0 speeds. This is kind of weird since I've disabled LPT, COM1, and COM2 in the BIOS. Maybe it's just a quick with Quick Install?

So all in all, The GA-P43-ES3G is a great motherboard for Win98 Quick Install. Version 1.0 comes with all the drivers out of the box with a caveat that USB device drivers will need to have the "Hardware Troubleshooter" ran on it.