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First post, by sydres

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So after going through two bad socket 7 boards, one bad socket 5, a bad 440lx, and a 440ex with a bad floppy controller as well as a flaky cmos that refuses to hold any settings. I remembered I had a slot 1 Emachine motherboard stashed away. This board board works and has a relatively comprehensive bios. The issue is Emachine apparently removed the boards ability to run pentium ii.
I have a fully unlocked 233mhz pentium ii I have tested to boot from 133 all the way to 366 that I would like to run but the board refuses to post with the cpu. I put the original celeron 300 Covington to make sure it wasn't a board issue and it posted fine as does a 400 Mendocino though that one gets detected as a 333.
Before anyone says it's not a great board, I'm fully aware. What I really want to know is has anyone tried flashing the trigem como-3 retail board bios to this OEM board to get back pentium 2 support?

Reply 1 of 8, by rasz_pl

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worst case scenario you will have to desolder the chip, reprogram with a programmer (fiend, hackerspaces, old school places fixing TVs/laptops) and solder again, or buy $1 PLCC32 SMT socket and second AM29F010/W27C010/N28F010/AT28C010 etc and program in using hot swap method

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 2 of 8, by sydres

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I have programmer, I'd need an adapter for it, my problem is I don't necessarily trust my smt soldering abilities since I'm usually soldering thru hole stuff and have avoided surface mount mostly, Guess I'd have an excuse to by a rework station or a much finer tip for my iron.

Reply 3 of 8, by rasz_pl

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sydres wrote on 2026-03-07, 13:01:

much finer tip for my iron.

Dont, its a myth. SMD soldering is all about fluid physics. Chisel/bevel tip + glob of solder + flux. Excess solder will flow towards the tip while big contact surface of the tip ensures proper heat transfer for healthy joint. Its Marangoni effect in action, liquid flows towards regions with higher surface tension.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 4 of 8, by sydres

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Interesting! Is it a drag technique?

Reply 5 of 8, by rasz_pl

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Any technique, its laws of nature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension SMD soldering is imo easier than tht because solder and flux do all the work for you.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 6 of 8, by sydres

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Thanks I am familiar with surface tension since my occupation is melting high purity, Ti 3n5 and up to 5n5 purity. Surface tension during casting is of great importance to minimize losses in the post melt machining process. As far as soldering goes my misunderstanding is probably because through soldering always requires significant heat to get the flow and I think my mindset is that I won't get enough heat on smt without damaging parts.

Reply 8 of 8, by sydres

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Turns out the switch settings for multiplier were completely wrong. Somehow the settings silk screened on the board and printed in the manual weren't even close. Silk screen settings for 233mhz- on,off,off,on
System wouldn't even post with those settings so I experimented with the switches and found that off,on,on,on got me to 233mhz