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First post, by lilylarceny

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Okay, this has been the one major problem with my windows xp build. I have an X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty and I am pretty sure that my GPU is conflicting with it, it's a reference evga 980ti. I have the GPU "HD Audio device" disabled in the device manager. I have Daniel K's most recent custom driver for the X-Fi. The Creative Labs software is set to "Game Mode" and EAX is on.

With in-game settings enabling EAX:
Sometimes I can play my entire gaming session without a problem. Sometimes my games play normally at first, and then after a little while some part or all of the audio will crack, pop and stutter, or get out of sync with the game. Other times the audio will be bad from the start, and I have to reboot the computer. This problem is usually resolved at least temporarily by rebooting.
If I set the game audio settings to "software" everything just works, but no EAX features.

Everything else seems to work great and exactly the way I want it to.

I have found quite a few people complaining of the same problem with the X-Fi and I have tried a lot of things they suggested. I think it might be time to consider a different sound card. The main reason I built this computer is EAX 3, 4, 5 hardware support tho, so I'm not sure where to go from here. If anyone has any recommendations, I'm all ears.

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Z97 chipset/Gigabyte G1 sniper motherboard
Intel I7 4790k CPU
16gb DDR3 ram
GTX 980ti
X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty
Win XP sp3 Integral Edition + PAE patch

Reply 1 of 12, by Joseph_Joestar

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From my experience, X-Fi Titanium cards work better when using older drivers under WinXP. See my guide for more details. Be sure to also install EAX Unified and OpenAL as instructed there.

Additionally, there are some reports that EAX can break under WinXP if the system can access more than 4GB RAM. I have 16GB on my machine and I haven't experienced that, but I don't use the PAE patch, so WinXP only sees 4GB .

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Reply 2 of 12, by lilylarceny

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:05:

From my experience, X-Fi Titanium cards work better when using older drivers under WinXP. See my guide for more details. Be sure to also install EAX Unified and OpenAL as instructed there.

I will have a look at this and try, but I have attempted a lot of other recommendations.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:05:

Additionally, there are some reports that EAX can break under WinXP if the system can access more than 4GB RAM. I have 16GB on my machine and I haven't experienced that, but I don't use the PAE patch, so WinXP only sees 4GB .

The vram and system ram both count toward the 4GB limit. Without the PAE patch, video intensive games crash constantly and behave as one would expect with running out of vram. After installing the PAE patch I don't have any more problems with vram limits or game crashing.

Reply 3 of 12, by Joseph_Joestar

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lilylarceny wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:40:

The vram and system ram both count toward the 4GB limit. Without the PAE patch, video intensive games crash constantly and behave as one would expect with running out of vram. After installing the PAE patch I don't have any more problems with vram limits or game crashing.

Out of curiosity, which games specifically caused those crashed for you? I had a 980Ti in one of my XP rigs and never saw anything like that.

That said, the most demanding games that I ran under WinXP were Crysis and BioShock, which both worked fine. I also played Mirror's Edge and Risen there, which are a bit newer, but they don't really need a super powerful GPU. Haven't really dabbled with anything released after 2009, other than a very brief test of Risen 2.

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Reply 5 of 12, by agent_x007

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ASUS Xonar stuff can emulate EAX 5.0, but not sure if WinXP driver for it is fine with that (since I use those usually in Vista+ OS).

Reply 6 of 12, by ott

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lilylarceny wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:40:

The vram and system ram both count toward the 4GB limit. Without the PAE patch, video intensive games crash constantly and behave as one would expect with running out of vram. After installing the PAE patch I don't have any more problems with vram limits or game crashing.

Can you suggest which games and settings to use to reproduce the bug?

Since you have PCI slots on G1.Sniper Z97 motherboard, I'd like to recommend the original X-Fi Fatal1ty (SB0460) but I'm not sure if it will have same issues with PAE patch.

Reply 7 of 12, by shevalier

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lilylarceny wrote on 2026-03-07, 19:53:

Gigabyte G1 sniper motherboard

If I'm not mistaken, these boards came with an activation key for the ‘X-FI for motherboards’ software.
It's a kind of software wrapper for the built-in sound codec with X-Fi functions.

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Reply 8 of 12, by lilylarceny

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-07, 21:01:

Out of curiosity, which games specifically caused those crashed for you? I had a 980Ti in one of my XP rigs and never saw anything like that.

ott wrote on 2026-03-08, 04:02:

Can you suggest which games and settings to use to reproduce the bug?

This happened consistently with Fallout New Vegas (2010 but system requirements were WinXP). I used max/ultra settings. I tried resolutions between 800x600 and 1920x1440. It did not have any sound problems, but the game didn't use EAX at all.
Upon using the PAE patch to 64gb the game just runs fine. Most of my games run great now, just the inconsistent sound issue. I do frequently have to download official patches and updates to get games working, but that's how it always was in the 98/xp era.

ott wrote on 2026-03-08, 04:02:

Since you have PCI slots on G1.Sniper Z97 motherboard, I'd like to recommend the original X-Fi Fatal1ty (SB0460) but I'm not sure if it will have same issues with PAE patch.

I could certainly try that, however I would prefer a PCIe card. My GPU is currently mounted vertically and it blocks off most the expansion slots except for the first PCIe 1x slot that the X-Fi is in.

TheIpex wrote on 2026-03-07, 22:29:

Is your CPU running at stock clocks?

My Haswell system won't play nice with X-Fi cards if the CPU is clocked above 4.6ghz (Despite being stable by every other metric).

It's only running at 4.0ghz, which is more than capable, so I don't see a need to push it. I would like this system to last a long time.

shevalier wrote on 2026-03-08, 09:40:

If I'm not mistaken, these boards came with an activation key for the ‘X-FI for motherboards’ software.
It's a kind of software wrapper for the built-in sound codec with X-Fi functions.

The on-board sound is Creative Sound Core3D, which does not have windows xp drivers. I have it disabled in the bios. I'm not sure what you're referring to beyond that.

Reply 9 of 12, by Joseph_Joestar

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lilylarceny wrote on 2026-03-08, 14:38:

This happened consistently with Fallout New Vegas (2010 but system requirements were WinXP). I used max/ultra settings. I tried resolutions between 800x600 and 1920x1440. It did not have any sound problems, but the game didn't use EAX at all.
Upon using the PAE patch to 64gb the game just runs fine. Most of my games run great now, just the inconsistent sound issue. I do frequently have to download official patches and updates to get games working, but that's how it always was in the 98/xp era.

I only have New Vegas on Steam, so I can't test it under WinXP. However, I do have Fallout 3 on GOG, and I did install it under WinXP a few months ago to check something. Granted, I didn't play for very long, maybe 15 minutes tops, but all my settings were fully maxed out at 1920x1200 and the game ran fine.

BTW, Fallout 3 doesn't use EAX, only DirectSound3D. I just checked New Vegas and it's the same there.

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Reply 10 of 12, by lilylarceny

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-08, 14:52:

I only have New Vegas on Steam, so I can't test it under WinXP. However, I do have Fallout 3 on GOG, and I did install it under WinXP a few months ago to check something. Granted, I didn't play for very long, maybe 15 minutes tops, but all my settings were fully maxed out at 1920x1200 and the game ran fine.

BTW, Fallout 3 doesn't use EAX, only DirectSound3D. I just checked New Vegas and it's the same there.

Yes, I am aware. I believe I mentioned that above. I do not have a problem with Fallout NV now at all. Only with EAX games.

Reply 11 of 12, by LSS10999

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lilylarceny wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:40:
I will have a look at this and try, but I have attempted a lot of other recommendations. […]
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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:05:

From my experience, X-Fi Titanium cards work better when using older drivers under WinXP. See my guide for more details. Be sure to also install EAX Unified and OpenAL as instructed there.

I will have a look at this and try, but I have attempted a lot of other recommendations.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-03-07, 20:05:

Additionally, there are some reports that EAX can break under WinXP if the system can access more than 4GB RAM. I have 16GB on my machine and I haven't experienced that, but I don't use the PAE patch, so WinXP only sees 4GB .

The vram and system ram both count toward the 4GB limit. Without the PAE patch, video intensive games crash constantly and behave as one would expect with running out of vram. After installing the PAE patch I don't have any more problems with vram limits or game crashing.

IIRC there was a thread regarding EAX with more than 4GB RAM but that was about WinXP x64. So it might be that for some games EAX may not work correctly if the system has available RAM above 4GB boundary, regardless of the environment being x86-PAE or x64.

From my experience with PAE-patched WinXP (most likely 2003 x86 also), however, avoid using the card's MIDI (soundfont) synth in such environments. The system may BSOD during MIDI playback. Sound playback (without any MIDI operation) works without issues, however.

Regarding PAE, however, Audigy series with kX driver seems to be free from most if not all BSOD risks. It's said that kX offers only limited EAX support, however.

agent_x007 wrote on 2026-03-08, 01:25:

ASUS Xonar stuff can emulate EAX 5.0, but not sure if WinXP driver for it is fine with that (since I use those usually in Vista+ OS).

You can't really install ASUS Xonar drivers on PAE-enabled WinXP as well as Win2003 x86. The driver will BSOD outright on startup during install process, if you have available RAM above 4GB boundary.

Reply 12 of 12, by Dimos

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You shouldn't need to have the PAE patch installed to run any game on Win Xp really. I have a setup almost identical to yours and run every game imaginable on XP x86 without PAE problem free at max settings, including exotic anti aliasing settings implemented through Nvidia Profile Inspector. Fallout 3 is one of them, also Metro 2033 which is incredibly demanding as far as Windows Xp games can be.

Cpu: Intel i7 4790k
Gpu: Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming 980 ti
Ram: G-Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTD
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97x Gaming 5
Hdd: T-Force Vulcan Z 512 gb Ssd
Psu: Corsair CX650
Soundcard: Creative SB Audigy RX
Os: Windows XP Sp3 x86