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First post, by Chekaway

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I was introduced to personal computing back in the early ‘80s when my parents bought a Commodore 64, monochrome monitor, and tape drive. Several years later that was replaced by a commodore 128 and 1541 disk drive. Mom and dad were a teacher and school system administrator respectively. Mom would bring an apple 2c or 2e home from school during the summer months. In 1990 in 10th grade I was lucky enough to receive a hand me down sharp 8086 notebook when my dad upgraded to a 286 compared notebook. It had a non backlit lcd monochrome screen that would output cga on an external crt. I was introduced to the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy text game. (One of my fav series of books) and police quest 2 and have quite a fondness and nostalgia for dos games. I had a several year period in the mid to late 2000s when I picked up the pc bug again and bought a bunch of vintage notebooks on eBay and experimented with repairing and refurbing. Set up my own email server, recapped an old amd machine I got out of the trash. The hp hdx 20” screen multimedia laptop I owned was a high point, as well as figuring out how to quad boot xp,vista,Ubuntu, and osx on an old pentium4ht vaio desktop. By 2011 I lost interest, smartphones began to replace my computer needs, finally last year I got the computer bug again, bought a bunch of old systems I thought were cool on eBay again, and started experimenting with old hardware. I refurbed a compaq lte 5400, compaq contura aero, finally played and beat leisure suit Larry 30 years later. Found an extremely clean and undesirable dell Inspiron 1721 with discrete graphics for next to nothing, upgraded the screen to a 1080x1920, the fastest processor supported, upgraded the graphics card to a 512mb model, even changed to black keyboard and plastics from a vostro. That one runs xp for my fav 2000s era game “gangland”beginning last year I have been experimenting with via based itx motherboards for dos/windows 98. gigabyte ga6vle, ecs c7vcm2 to begin with. After messing around with hardware and software I settled on the epia m2-12000 itx mobo. One of the few epia boards with floppy drive support. Built my 98 machine with said mobo, fx5500 pci, 512mb ram, 64gb cf card for os and storage, a nos Sony 52x cd-rw, gotek floppy, 3.5 floppy, dual cf to ide and Sd to ide in a 5.25 carrier. It works beautifully for a lot of games with sound via sbemu, but mainly as a support system for my other machines. It is extremely useful. I never thought I would be so enamored with a machine that runs windows 98 😆. Lastly I also present to you what I regard as an extremely good bargain, someone’s 486 gaming computer circa 1994. Pcchips m912 v1.7 with figures chipset and 256kb of real socketed cache, intel 486dx2, ess sound card, and cirrus logic video card. Original hdd is a maxtor 3.5gb that still functions. Replaced that and the cd rom with a Dual cf to IDE. All in a graphite gray full tower case and extremely clean inside and out. For $209 🤣 I realize none of this is groundbreaking for people in this forum, but I am greatly appreciative for the collective knowledge here and I thank you all! Ps. I successfully modified a nos ibm joystick to fit the game port and it works flawlessly

Reply 1 of 8, by Chekaway

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*fugu tech chipset in the 486

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Reply 2 of 8, by Chekaway

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Contura

Reply 3 of 8, by Joakim

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Ah yeah nice conputers. That small form factor build with all black interior is very classy. Is that the Epia?

I have an epia board somewhere, I think I had some trouble with bootable devices otherwise it is interesting.

That beige compaq is also nice, is it a pentium or 486?

Reply 4 of 8, by Chekaway

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Thanks! The compaq is a pentium 150mhz, 32mb ram, 800x600 tft and has onboard ess sound of some variety iirc. The black sff is the epia. The method I have used on all the via boards I have including the epia is: cf-ide as c drive, boot to windows 98 boot disk in usb floppy, partition and format /s, remove cf card, add win98 files, reinstall, boot to c:, run setup in win98 folder. The via based wyse cx0 I used a cf-sd adapter and same method but with dos 6.22. Only caveat with that one is after install have to boot back to floppy and fdisk /mbr. Also I had to learn that the usb floppy has to be plugged directly into one of the usb ports on the motherboard and not through a hub or front panel. The difficult ones were the compaq notebooks. They use a wierd boot sector or something. I couldn’t get them to boot so I cheated and bought cf cards on eBay that were reformatted properly for the compaqs with windows 95 installed. Iirc they were around $40 each.

Reply 5 of 8, by Chekaway

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Also, it took some digging to find a small mini itx case with the appropriate amount of 5.25 drive bays. It is from istarusa and I believe is meant to be used for a nas or cd/dvd duplicator, is of very high quality, and was about $120 iirc

Reply 6 of 8, by Joakim

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Yeah I have a couple of compaqs, need to install a part of the bios on the harddrive. This is often a problem when the old drive is missing. Often the caddy is also missing when you buy one. Not very easy to obtain.

Are you using a riser board for the epia or just the one pci slot? I think I would put a sound card in it. There are cheap ones with very good compatibility for DOS.

Reply 7 of 8, by Chekaway

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The epia pc doesn’t use a riser. There wouldn’t be room for it in the case. The fx5500 barely fits, I have to remove one of the hexagonal standoffs on the dvi port and rock it into place. There is a second slot in the case which I have populated with a cf-ide adapter for os/storage. I have a morex sff mini itx case with a pci riser, I also have a dual pci riser in a form factor that I believe will work in it. I plan on building it with a pci sound blaster and some sort of pci graphics card. I really like the fx5500pci card for this purpose but have a hard time reconciling paying almost $200 for what I bought brand new a year ago for 1/4 of the price. I would like to buy or build a case from scratch with a pci cable riser that would allow me to stack the pci cards on top of the motherboard on top of the power supply in a cube shaped form factor. I experimented with sata and win98 with the mobo pictured. Windows 98 doesn’t like it. The 2 ecs c7vcm2 boards I have are newer gen, use sata (and ide) and ddr2. The epia m2-12000 and gigabyte ga-6vle boards I have are very compatible with win98. I wanted floppy drives for my main 98 pc but the ga-6vle works great otherwise. Drivers available for all 3 boards

Reply 8 of 8, by Chekaway

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Ga-6vle. One of the nice features of this board is that the red ID port is powered so a CF adapter works without floppy power.