RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-03-28, 08:17:

rasz_pl wrote on 2026-03-28, 01:53:

PLE133T is VIA 694T + Savage4.

Is it Savage 4? I read somewhere that this chipset had Trident Blade3D?

wait, PL133T is Sagave4 😐 PLE133T is blage3D https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … trident-blade3d barf

RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-03-28, 12:42:

I think I see the confusion now.
PL133T has Savage 4
PLE133T has Trident Blade3D

yep. and Im sure VIA did this naming on purpose, bunch of scammers

VIA SB emulation has one main drawback, the size of the VIAFMTSR driver which could potentially be a dealbreaker if short of base RAM and UMB

Major Jackyl wrote on 2026-03-27, 23:46:

kixs wrote on 2026-03-27, 23:23:

Major Jackyl wrote on 2026-03-27, 22:22:

I have a similar board. I use it only for testing Tualatin CPUs without taking apart my primary Tually PC (which has TUSL2). […]
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I have a similar board. I use it only for testing Tualatin CPUs without taking apart my primary Tually PC (which has TUSL2).

I also ran windows 7 on it, for a good laugh. The 20GB drive was basically completely consumed and it took maybe 4+ hours? Absolutely useless after that, 🤣 No drivers for the VGA or audio in windows 7, not that it matters much; absolute slug-fest

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Oldest, slowest PC I ever installed 7 on, don't think it's possible to sink any lower than that.

You should have used a SSD and some later PCI card like Geforce 8400GS. It would be completely other experience.

Not sure if any of my PCI SATA cards would've booted it, so getting an SSD on this board could be tricky. Best I could've done in the GPU department is a 5200, which is the "last" nvidia PCI card? 8400GS is a PCI-e card. I've NEVER seen anything higher than 5 series in PCI form. I don't have drivers for 5 series or lower for windows 7, either, so I would need to find some of those. Thinking about it sounds like a hassle, 🤣 Only to waste the ISA in the end because windows 7 doesn't know anything about it.

I've tested SSD with Promise PCI SATA card on Socket A board with WinXP. Boots and works fine.

Among others a small list of cards that were also on PCI bus:

- Geforce GT 520
- Geforce GT 420
- Geforce 210
- Geforce 9500GT
- Geforce 8400GS
- Gefoce 6200
- Radeon X1550
- Radeon HD 5450
- Radeon HD 4350

Ok so I think the onboard video is not really any good for games that the Tualatin would shine at. Take Unreal Tournament 99 for instance. It runs at 16FPS @640x480 and looks horrible:

Just for comparison my Pentium MMX with Voodoo 1 gets 20FPS in the same place, and looks better (though still not great):

So, a GPU definitely is needed for this kind of game. Next thing to try is DOS.

wierd_w wrote on 2026-03-28, 13:59:

It can start win3.11 😁

Also, it's based on released DR-DOS sources, not freedos sources.

Yes, correct, it is now. The first reference I found said that it was based on FreeDOS. I think the Kernel change to be based on DR DOS was only in the last couple of years.

Ok. So DOS testing so far has been good. The Via drivers will load high, which means I can get over 600Kb free conventional memory.

So games I tried:

Quake
https://youtu.be/Vgqn-41kAvE?si=tN7Jt9GYc5WxThBH

Duke Nukem 2
https://youtu.be/nztENdSdjfY?si=O6ClyZAe6XSnnwGX

Duke3D
https://youtu.be/8dMKnGY2fpk?si=yv58N_xqF0JyOCpC

Wacky Wheels
https://youtu.be/qoXApbHMGO4?si=mr4zSARpmVy4342q

Nice of them to include creative adpcm support in the DOS drivers

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-03-30, 11:23:

Nice of them to include creative adpcm support in the DOS drivers

Yeah, I was expecting issues with Duke Nukem 2.