vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39:I don't understand the test you're asking for tracing U38 to jumpers
- multimeter set to continuity mode, the beepy test
- one probe on chip U38 pin 16 (last one, next to blue capacitors)
- remove jumpers from JP10 and JP11
- second probe to JP10 and test if one of its 3 pins beep
- if no beeps repeat with second probe to JP11 and test if one of its 3 pins beep
- repeat with chip U38 pin 15
- put jumpers back
This will confirm JP10 JP11 FSB selection combinations.
vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39:
I'll test removing the cache chips but there is 9 chips and I don't know if I should remove the 9 or only the 8 that are aligned in 2x4 configuration.
all 9 to be on a safe side
vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39: Without video card : 41-3B, with video card : 1-3B, beeps are the same.
>2 short (high), 8 long (low)
I think I watched first video without headphones, listening again its 1 long 8 short standard no video code https://blog.theretroweb.com/2024/01/20/amibi … ist/#Beep_codes
so its complaining about no VGA card every time, meaning its failing to execute VGA Bios, or maybe even detect its presence
vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39:
vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39:I didn't tried another monitor
no need to, Im sorry, I somehow thought due to POST codes so high that VGA Bios is being initialized. I checked again and can confirm AMI will stop somewhere around 30-40 when it fails to detect Video card.
vbug wrote on 2026-03-29, 15:39:
Are those photos good enough ?
pictures are almost great, hard to follow tracks but will do
Ok so the board is unable to
- detect Video bios extension
or
- execute VGA bios
or
- VGA bios fails to detect card
POST card uses port IO writes so at least we know
- 8 bit data bus works
- 16 address lines work
- /IO_WR signal works
To execute VGA bios successfully we also need at least
- /SMEMR isa pin B11 because bios is usually 8bit
- /IOR pin B14
- LA17-23
we also might need
- /MEMR isa pin C9
- /MEMW isa pin C10
- SD8-15
re-reading symptoms it does sounds like motherboard developing an intermittent connection that turned into permanent break after shuffling cards. It can be a cracked joint, broken pin, broken connection in one of the chips, a chip that simply died due to mechanical/thermal stress and no longer works.
isa pinout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_Standa … SA_Bus_pins.svg
chipset pinout https://theretroweb.com/chip/documentation/85 … 5d517668401.pdf
74ls245 pinout https://www.circuits-diy.com/74ls245-octal-bu … tput-datasheet/
It would involve patiently and slowly tracking connections between chipset pins and ISA slot:
- /SMEMR
- /IOR
- /MEMR
- /MEMW
- SA0-1 -> SA0-1
- A2-23 -> SA2-19 and LA17-23
- data bus gets complicated quick, D0-15 -> SD0-15 SD8-15 -> SD8-15?
The trick is those arent direct connections, there are buffers between everything and with just multimeter you will only be able to check if there arent any breaks between, but not fully test if everything functions as desired.
Example: lets say we want to check CPU D0 -> ISA DATA 0 (pin A9)
- lay mobo on the back. remember pin numbering will be flipped
- find ISA slot data 0, its pin A9
- first scan all pin A9 pins of all slots to check if there are any obvious tracks going to chips on top
- for A9 there is one track on second ISA slot, somehow called SLOT4 on this board 😮 😀
- this A9 track on second slot then goes up (if you orient board so the CPU is in lower left corner)
- it lands on pin 18 of a 20 pin Chip hiding under the BIOS chip 😀 this chip is most likely 74ls245
- pin 18 of 74ls245 passes signals to pin 2
- pin 2 of that chip most likely connects to BIOS chip pin 11 (data 0)
- this wasnt what we were looking for (CPU D0) so we walk back to ISA pin A9
- sine we dont see any more obvious tracks now begins tedious part where you probe every pin of every 20 pin chip hoping to find one that beeps
- when you find beep you check what chip it is, if is 74ls245 you check the pin corresponding to the beeping pin in 74ls245 datasheet
- you continue from that new pin buzzing CPU socket looking for beeping
and repeat for every one of ~30 pins that need checking.
With oscilloscope procedure is different, you can probe ISA pins directly hoping to find missing or "funny" signal.
as you can see this is a TON of work 🙁