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I recently found this hardware, AKA the Dumpster find thread.

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Reply 5140 of 5144, by bitzu101

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Dunno where you living , but that Q6700 is not worth more than 10 pounds , IF THAT.

As for the bent motherboard , send it to the graveyard , they can recicle the cooper and stuff.

Reply 5141 of 5144, by appiah4

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Mike_ wrote on Yesterday, 14:24:
appiah4 wrote on Yesterday, 11:19:

That is beside the point. Their junk may be treasure for you, but you can not judge them for wanting to send it to a landfill to reduce what they think is basically clutter and pollution. The owner has decided that it needs to be destroyed/recycled whatever; who is anyone to question what they do with their own property to the point of legitimizing theft? This is borderline sociopathic entitlement.

What? Usually people just want to get rid off stuff they don't need and is taking space. Most of the time they couldn't care less if somebody scavenges it, and if it goes to use, that's also a way to reduce pollution.

People can have all kinds of reasons from privacy concerns to simple principle for wanting their belongings not be used by others. Legally an ewaste has to respect that. Both legally and ethically so should we.

IANAL either but a person's personal trash within their property still belongs to them and you can not go through it and pick things out of it as if it were public domain, this is only the case once they use public trashcans on the sidewalk etc so you can grab PCs left on the kerb etc. In an ewaste, it is the ewaste's property and not junk in the first place, so this is not even a grey area, simply theft.

Reply 5142 of 5144, by MattRocks

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appiah4 wrote on Today, 08:38:
Mike_ wrote on Yesterday, 14:24:
appiah4 wrote on Yesterday, 11:19:

That is beside the point. Their junk may be treasure for you, but you can not judge them for wanting to send it to a landfill to reduce what they think is basically clutter and pollution. The owner has decided that it needs to be destroyed/recycled whatever; who is anyone to question what they do with their own property to the point of legitimizing theft? This is borderline sociopathic entitlement.

What? Usually people just want to get rid off stuff they don't need and is taking space. Most of the time they couldn't care less if somebody scavenges it, and if it goes to use, that's also a way to reduce pollution.

People can have all kinds of reasons from privacy concerns to simple principle for wanting their belongings not be used by others. Legally an ewaste has to respect that. Both legally and ethically so should we.

IANAL either but a person's personal trash within their property still belongs to them and you can not go through it and pick things out of it as if it were public domain, this is only the case once they use public trashcans on the sidewalk etc so you can grab PCs left on the kerb etc. In an ewaste, it is the ewaste's property and not junk in the first place, so this is not even a grey area, simply theft.

Don't forget this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_buried_ … ewport_landfill

Reply 5143 of 5144, by Mike_

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appiah4 wrote on Today, 08:38:

People can have all kinds of reasons from privacy concerns to simple principle for wanting their belongings not be used by others. Legally an ewaste has to respect that. Both legally and ethically so should we.

IANAL either but a person's personal trash within their property still belongs to them and you can not go through it and pick things out of it as if it were public domain, this is only the case once they use public trashcans on the sidewalk etc so you can grab PCs left on the kerb etc. In an ewaste, it is the ewaste's property and not junk in the first place, so this is not even a grey area, simply theft.

I'd say legal or not, it's ethical enough to scavenge old computer parts. It's one of those things that's fine as long as you aren't getting caught or making a scene.

Reply 5144 of 5144, by MattRocks

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Mike_ wrote on Today, 12:45:
appiah4 wrote on Today, 08:38:

People can have all kinds of reasons from privacy concerns to simple principle for wanting their belongings not be used by others. Legally an ewaste has to respect that. Both legally and ethically so should we.

IANAL either but a person's personal trash within their property still belongs to them and you can not go through it and pick things out of it as if it were public domain, this is only the case once they use public trashcans on the sidewalk etc so you can grab PCs left on the kerb etc. In an ewaste, it is the ewaste's property and not junk in the first place, so this is not even a grey area, simply theft.

I'd say legal or not, it's ethical enough to scavenge old computer parts. It's one of those things that's fine as long as you aren't getting caught or making a scene.

The person with a conscience can catch themselves. What if you pick up parts that contain information that is illegal to possess?